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Tebow’s Religion, and Ours
National Review Online ^ | December 3, 2011 | Daniel Foster

Posted on 12/05/2011 3:32:27 PM PST by wmfights

When the Detroit Lions’ Stephen Tulloch sacked Tim Tebow in the first quarter of their week eight matchup, the linebacker immediately kneeled next to the prone Denver quarterback, in a mockery of Tebow’s habit of praying on-field, most recently seen after his miraculous fourth-quarter comeback against the Dolphins the week before.

The insult coincided with and reinforced the explosion of “Tebowing” as an Internet meme, complete with a Twitter account and web-site. There you can see an act of communion with one’s creator rendered as a bit of pop-cultural ephemera, and you can scroll through pictures of folks striking the pose everywhere from Oxford to Istanbul, with that muddle of irony and enthusiasm that has become my generation’s trademark.

But there isn’t an ironic bone in Tim Tebow’s body. That’s what makes him conspicuous. That’s what makes the fact that he’s managed to stay squeaky clean, in a sport that notoriously is not, conspicuous. And it’s why the power of Tebow’s evangelical-Christian faith, and the earnestness with which he professes it, seems to annoy so many people.

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TOPICS: Charismatic Christian; Evangelical Christian; General Discusssion; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: evangelism; righteous; tebow; timtebow
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To: murron

That team, the Lions, I thoought when I had watched video highlights on Thanksgiving Day, when one player tried to take a Packers player down, it was a MIRACLE that a bench-clearing braw did not result from it. The Packers to their credit keep themselves above the fray, that is why their season has been perfect and I am not a Packers fan, but have a LOT of respect for that team.


81 posted on 12/05/2011 8:39:53 PM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: murron

If my memory is also correct, the Lions has one player that is the most troublemaking there is.


82 posted on 12/05/2011 8:43:13 PM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: dfwgator

Did you watched that game of the Lions vs. the Packers on Thanksgiving Day? I thought that Suh was trying to start by watching a post-game video a possible bench-clearing braw between the Lions and the Packers by “attacking” a Packers player.

Glad that a former University of Connecticut or UConn football player, Dan Olansky is now playing for the Colts. Hope that he helps them in future seasons.


83 posted on 12/05/2011 8:48:39 PM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: MuttTheHoople

I think it went there ever since Thanksgiving Day, when Mr. Suh tried to attack a Packers player.


84 posted on 12/05/2011 8:51:25 PM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: cloudmountain

Glad that a former UConn football player who played for Lions is now playing for the Colts.


85 posted on 12/05/2011 8:56:15 PM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Biggirl
There is no arguing with Daniel's closing sentences:

" In short, people aren’t upset at Tebow’s God talk. They’re upset that he might actually believe it."

86 posted on 12/05/2011 8:58:33 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: editor-surveyor

I keep tabs from time to time on one player for the Ravens because of the movie, “The Blind Side” plays for them.


87 posted on 12/05/2011 8:59:23 PM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: wmfights

Have you not visited any of the 40 Days for Life — that the Catholic Church started threads — ??

And I am not ignorant.....I hope you weren’t attacking me.


88 posted on 12/05/2011 11:10:37 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: wmfights
God bless Tim Tebow and I pray God strengthens him to endure the relentless attack on his character that has become the trademark of our entire culture. Imagine being an early twenties, handsome, bright, talented and, now, wealthy, man in this day and age? Imagine having ruthless reporters and photographers hounding you 24/7 ready and willing to be the one to catch him in ANYTHING that can be played as a "sin". People who couldn't care less about sin in their own lives but eager to be "the one" to get the "get" on Tim.

He is an amazing man but he isn't perfect and I can't begin to imagine the pressure he is and has been under because of his stand for Christ and for life. I hope he continues to wow on the field, but I have no doubt that whatever happens professionally, he will always be the man God wants him to be. Men like him and others like Kurt Warner are badly needed today. Oh, for a million more just like them!

89 posted on 12/05/2011 11:37:19 PM PST by boatbums ( Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us. Titus 3:5)
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To: editor-surveyor

The Lord Jesus fulfilled the Law completely; that is He meet all the demands of the Law.

Only the Lord Jesus could meet the requirements of God’s Law. No other man could do it.

“All we like sheep have gone astray, and the LORD hath laid on Him the iniquity of us all.”(Isaiah 53:6)

“For He[God] made Him[Jesus] to be sin for us, who knew no sin, that we might be made the righteousness of God in Him.” (2 Cor. 5:21)

Christians are: “not under the Law...” (Rom.14-15)”Delivered from the Law...” (Rom. 7:6) “Free from the Law...” (Rom. 8:2)”For Christ is the end of the Law for righteousness to everyone that believeth...” (Rom.10:4)

“Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the Law.” (Rom. 3:28)Aso see: Rom. 3:31; Hebrews 7:19); Gal. 3:11-12 and last: “Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us to Christ, that we might be justified by faith.” (Gal. 3:24)


90 posted on 12/05/2011 11:52:35 PM PST by LetMarch (If a man knows the right way to live, and does not live it, there is no greater coward. (Anonymous)
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To: j_tull

lol, yeah that’s going to be a real test for the Broncos.


91 posted on 12/06/2011 1:53:25 AM PST by free me (heartless)
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To: wmfights

Did you mean Baltimore, Blitzburg, and New England? Because Cincinnati is not very good.


92 posted on 12/06/2011 2:04:55 AM PST by st.eqed
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To: metmom

I would encourage you to point out that you do not have to be catholic to be pro life. In fact there would not be a pro life movement at all if not for the dilligent hard work from evangelicals. Personally I welcome the Johnny fine-lately support from the catholic church. It would be nice if the parishioners would walk the talk. The vast majority of Catholics I know would never vote republican. Just saying.


93 posted on 12/06/2011 2:46:36 AM PST by st.eqed
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To: metmom

I would encourage you to point out that you do not have to be catholic to be pro life. In fact there would not be a pro life movement at all if not for the dilligent hard work from evangelicals. Personally I welcome the Johnny fine-lately support from the catholic church. It would be nice if the parishioners would walk the talk. The vast majority of Catholics I know would never vote republican. Just saying.


94 posted on 12/06/2011 2:47:35 AM PST by st.eqed
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To: st.eqed
I would encourage you to point out that you do not have to be catholic to be pro life. In fact there would not be a pro life movement at all if not for the dilligent hard work from evangelicals. Personally I welcome the Johnny fine-lately support from the catholic church. It would be nice if the parishioners would walk the talk. The vast majority of Catholics I know would never vote republican. Just saying.

I know that for a fact. I'm not all that familiar with the history of the Operation Rescue movement, but I do know that there's a local evangelical pastor in Central NY who went to jail for a month for contempt of court because he would not promise the judge that he'd stay away from the front of the local PP office and quit protesting.

I know that many Catholics like to act as if the pro-life movement is theirs but they can not lay claim to it. While the official church position is more outspoken about it than outside Protestantism, it doesn't mean they have a corner on the pro-life market. I know MANY non-Catholics who work in crisis pregnancy centers and protest abortion.

I worked with a LOT of Catholics at one time, for over ten years, and they admitted that they consistently voted Democrat. When asked by the Christians at work how they could vote Democrat with the dem stand on abortion, the answer was always the same. *Because the Democrats are "for the poor"*.

Go figure. Vote abortion supporting Democrat because of welfare.....

And these were very devout practicing Catholics. We could not figure it out.....

95 posted on 12/06/2011 6:00:09 AM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: metmom
Romans 14:5-9 5 One person esteems one day as better than another, while another esteems all days alike. Each one should be fully convinced in his own mind. 6The one who observes the day, observes it in honor of the Lord. The one who eats, eats in honor of the Lord, since he gives thanks to God, while the one who abstains, abstains in honor of the Lord and gives thanks to God. 7For none of us lives to himself, and none of us dies to himself. 8For if we live, we live to the Lord, and if we die, we die to the Lord. So then, whether we live or whether we die, we are the Lord’s. 9For to this end Christ died and lived again, that he might be Lord both of the dead and of the living.

The context into which Paul is talking is the observance of Jewish religious holidays, and dietary (Kosher) regulations. The Church in Rome had a mix of Jewish and Gentile followers of Jesus. I agree, when it comes to religious holidays, or the food we eat, or what we drink, the New Testament surely gives us freedom. However, remembering the Sabbath day (Exod. 20:8-11)--which since time of the New Testament has been recognized as Sunday, the day of the Resurrection, the "Lord's Day" (Rev. 1:10)--is not optional for Christians.

The idea that God has suspended the 10 Commandments--or made even one of them optional--not only isn't biblical, it doesn't make sense. (Does anyone argue that way over not committing adultery, murder, or theft?)

The 7 day pattern of 6 days work and 1 for worship and rest is woven into Creation itself (see Genesis 1)preceding even the 10 Commandments. (Isn't it odd that every people on earth follows a 7 day week?)

American Christians especially--starting with professional athletes--are very wrong to ignore keeping the Lord's Day holy.

96 posted on 12/06/2011 7:51:44 AM PST by AnalogReigns (because REALITY is never digital...)
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To: Cvengr
Tebow makes watching football worthwhile.

He does.

97 posted on 12/06/2011 7:52:38 AM PST by wmfights (PERRY 2012)
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To: RobbyS

The Apostle Paul told us to do every task as if you are doing it for the Lord

it seems to me that is what Teebow is doing.


98 posted on 12/06/2011 7:57:22 AM PST by Rightly Biased (Do you know how awkward it is to have a political argument with a naked man?)
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To: smalltownslick
On the other hand, are we really to believe Jesus cares who scores a touchdown?

There is nothing to great or to small, but I doubt the score really matters. I think Tebow's Christian witness shines through in how he responds to criticism and being mocked.

99 posted on 12/06/2011 7:57:50 AM PST by wmfights (PERRY 2012)
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To: metmom
Philippians 1:15-18 15 Some indeed preach Christ from envy and rivalry, but others from good will. 16The latter do it out of love, knowing that I am put here for the defense of the gospel. 17The former proclaim Christ out of rivalry, not sincerely but thinking to afflict me in my imprisonment. 18What then? Only that in every way, whether in pretense or in truth, Christ is proclaimed, and in that I rejoice.

It is so great to see a young man with all the riches and accolades he could want and at every opportunity instead of accepting adulation he gives it to the Lord. He proclaims The Gospel every chance he gets and really tries to love his enemies.

I'm rooting for his team, but it really doesn't matter if they win or lose games. It is the role model that Tebow provides that I'm rooting for. At some point I'm sure he will stumble, we all do, hopefully we will try to be a witness like he is and help him up when he does stumble.

100 posted on 12/06/2011 8:08:53 AM PST by wmfights (PERRY 2012)
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