Posted on 12/01/2011 8:07:57 AM PST by Salvation
The Catholic Church and I am a life-long member has disgraced itself beyond belief. If evidence should be revealed that a Cardinal was implicit in this cover-up, he should be indicted. Im having trepidation as I prepare to attend Mass this morning. Im afraid that if my pastor reads The Cardinals BS letter, I shall have to walk out and, maybe, forever!
As someone who has left the perverse Catholic Church I can only urge all to boycott this corrupt religion. The very fact they are celibate attracts pedophiles and homosexuals to the order. Catholicism is inherently flawed and evil because of this. Look to other Christian faiths for true religion.
-online comments to February 2011 Philadelphia Inquirer articles about the priestly abuse investigation.
As a Catholic evangelist, it is impossible for me to ignore the damage caused by the priestly abuse crisis. It is the type of story embraced by the mainstream media and a favorite water cooler conversation at the office. As evidenced by the above quotes, the fallout from this tragedy has shaken peoples faith, caused them to stop donating to the Church or, in some cases, to leave the Catholic Church entirely. As demonstrated by the recent news coming out of Philadelphia, it is a story that will not die. If we take Jesus at His word, we know that the Church will never disappear (Mt 16:18), but there is no doubt that she is being damaged. As Catholics, what can (and should) we do in defense of our Church?
As ludicrous as it sounds, I propose that we start by getting to know Satan! In understanding who he is and what his goals are, well be able to better defend against his attacks on our Catholic Church. No matter what you may hear or read, the devil is very much involved in all of the evil that is taking place in the Church.
Scripture tells us clearly that Satan is a liar (Gen 3:4-5, Lk 4:6, Jn 8:44). While not able to force us to sin, he will use any means to convince us to do evil. He even had the audacity to use Scripture (Mt 4:6) when trying to tempt Jesus! The Catechism of the Catholic Church (CCC) describes him as the one who throws himself across Gods plan and His work of salvation accomplished in Christ (CCC 2851). As a lover of evil, what does Satan enjoy?
He loves when babies are murdered through abortion. He especially enjoys the fact that he fools people into thinking that killing the unborn is a choice. He rejoices when he convinces men and women to sin mortally by looking at pornography. Its even more of a joy to him when the sin results in the breakup of a family. Speaking of families, Satan is overjoyed when he sees divorce and child abuse. All kinds of crime, especially murder, make him very happy. However, nothing thrills the devil more than when he convinces a member of the clergy to sin, especially publicly. Furthermore, if that sin involves the abuse of a child or homosexuality, thats even sweeter to Satan. Perhaps the only thing that could add to his enjoyment is when that sin by an ordained minister leads others to criticize or leave the Church entirely. Thats exactly what the devil wants. As someone who wants to stop our salvation, he will do anything he can to ensure we separate ourselves from the vehicle of that salvation, the Church!
Unfortunately, we often play right into his hands and unintentionally help him to damage the Church. Instead of focusing on the fact that Jesus Christ founded the Catholic Church as a necessary vehicle for our salvation, we bad mouth and condemn the Church. We refer to the perpetrators (accused or convicted) as monsters, cry for their heads, condemn the bishops for making bad decisions and refuse to contribute to the Church. We speak and let others speak of the Church as a corrupt organization run by power hungry men. Fueled by our anger and outrage, we fail to realize that our words may cause others to leave the Church, putting their salvation in jeopardy. When we condemn The Church, we fail to recognize that there is a difference between The Church and her individual members. When one of her members (including members of the Church hierarchy) sins, it is not The Church who sins, but the individuals!
What then is the correct response to these horrible crimes committed by members of the clergy? Should it just be ignored? The first thing we need to remember is that we should not depend on the mainstream media to give us the true story of these Church scandals. While some of the information is undoubtedly true, often times the accusations are partially or completely false. What good does it do for us to focus on the alleged details and share them with others? If the topic arises at the workplace or in our social circles, we could redirect the conversation and state that the Church is a Heavenly institution and was founded by Christ. Scripture tells us that the Church is the pillar and foundation of truth (1 Tm 3:15). While this means that the Church cannot teach error, it does not mean that the individual members of the Church hierarchy cannot sin. Until Christ comes again in glory, the Church on earth (including the clergy) is made up of imperfect sinners. We could also remind others that the vast majority of priests and bishops are good, holy men. Although the media would like us to think otherwise, the percentage of individuals involved in these horrific acts is very small.
Additionally, we must pray daily for our Catholic clergy. St. Peter reminds us that the devil is prowling around like a roaring lion looking for (someone) to devour (1 Pt 5:8). If that someone is a priest or bishop, that is a special prize to Satan. If we criticize our clergy without praying for them, shame on us!
We must also keep in mind that when we criticize the Church (or her clergy), we criticize Christ. As evidence, I ask you to recall the words of Our Lord to Saul (a.k.a. St. Paul) of Tarsus on the road to Damascus. Before he went on to be the Apostle to the Gentiles, Saul was a notorious persecutor of Christians. He didnt even know Jesus, as evidenced by his question to the Lord, Who are you, sir? Christs response should send chills up and down the spine of anyone who speaks negatively about any member of the Church hierarchy, I am Jesus, whom you are persecuting (Acts 9.5). Outside of the sheer ingratitude of criticizing the Savior of the world, anyone who speaks poorly about Jesus (or His Church) should become familiar with His words in Matthew 10:32-33!
I want to be absolutely clear that I am in no way recommending that we cover up any illegal acts committed by members of the Catholic clergy or ignore the horrible agony experienced by the victims. If you or someone you know is the victim of abuse by a member of the Catholic clergy, you should immediately report the issue to the police. However, I am asking you to remember how happy Satan is when the Church is damaged in any way. The devil hates Jesus, hates the Church and hates everything good. He despises it when, instead of spreading venomous stories about our Church and her Magisterium, we defend her Divine goodness. Pray for the clergy, pray for the victims, pray for the Churchs leaders, pray for the any members of the press who distort the truth for publicity. By doing so you will help to thwart Satans efforts to damage the Church and thats a GOOD thing!
jack, even protestant theologians, well versed in all aspects of greek, as, realize what the text means....
R.T. France says this in his commentary on Matthew, “Verses 17 through 19 are addressed to Peter and have been regarded by some as a late addition to support an early claim to the primacy of the Bishop of Rome. Whether or not they give any such support, there is no textual evidence for their addition to the gospel after its original composition, and the strongly Semitic or Jewish character of the language throughout these verses point to a relatively early origin in a Palestinian environment.” What is France saying? Well, many scholars have suggested that Jesus could not have given this gift to Peter. Jesus could not have given this original saying. Why? Because many scholars don’t believe that Jesus foresaw the building of the Church. They think that all of these sayings of Jesus concerning the Church were added later by the Church to support whatever had happened to the Church.
Dr. France says, “That’s just not tenable.” When you study this you realize that all of the evidence in the text shows that this is one of the original sayings of Jesus. He goes on to say, “Jesus’ beatitude of Peter or His blessing is given to Peter alone. The other disciples may have shared his insight but Peter, characteristically expressed it. Matthew often illustrates Peter’s place at the head of the disciples’ group. He was the spokesman, the pioneer, the natural leader.” He goes on to talk about how Peter is referenced to the Rock. France says, “It describes not so much Peter’s character, that is the Rock. He did not prove to be rock-like in terms of stability or reliability but rather the name Rock or Peter points to his function as the foundation stone of Jesus’ Church.”
RT France continues: The term Peter, Rock, points to Simon and not his character because he could be very unstable, but rather his official function as the foundation stone of Jesus’ Church. The word-play is unmistakable.” He says, “It is only Protestant over-reaction to the Roman Catholic claim, of course, which has no foundation in the text, that what is here said of Peter applies also to the later Bishops of Rome.”
W. F. Albright, in his Anchor Bible Commentary on Matthew. “Peter as the Rock will be the foundation of the future community, the church. Jesus here uses Aramaic and so only the Aramaic word which would serve His purpose. In view of the background in verse 19, one must dismiss as confessional interpretation any attempt to see this rock as the faith or the confession of Peter.”
He continues on: “Isaiah 22, verse 15, undoubtedly lies behind this saying of Jesus. The keys are the symbol of authority and Father Roland DeVoe rightly sees here the same authority vested in the vicar, the master of the house, the chamberlain of the royal household in ancient Israel. In Isaiah 22 Eliakim is described as having the same authority.”
If you need more history lessons, even from your own protestant (sorry, no google), let me know.
jack, even protestant theologians, well versed in all aspects of greek, as, realize what the text means....
R.T. France says this in his commentary on Matthew, “Verses 17 through 19 are addressed to Peter and have been regarded by some as a late addition to support an early claim to the primacy of the Bishop of Rome. Whether or not they give any such support, there is no textual evidence for their addition to the gospel after its original composition, and the strongly Semitic or Jewish character of the language throughout these verses point to a relatively early origin in a Palestinian environment.” What is France saying? Well, many scholars have suggested that Jesus could not have given this gift to Peter. Jesus could not have given this original saying. Why? Because many scholars don’t believe that Jesus foresaw the building of the Church. They think that all of these sayings of Jesus concerning the Church were added later by the Church to support whatever had happened to the Church.
Dr. France says, “That’s just not tenable.” When you study this you realize that all of the evidence in the text shows that this is one of the original sayings of Jesus. He goes on to say, “Jesus’ beatitude of Peter or His blessing is given to Peter alone. The other disciples may have shared his insight but Peter, characteristically expressed it. Matthew often illustrates Peter’s place at the head of the disciples’ group. He was the spokesman, the pioneer, the natural leader.” He goes on to talk about how Peter is referenced to the Rock. France says, “It describes not so much Peter’s character, that is the Rock. He did not prove to be rock-like in terms of stability or reliability but rather the name Rock or Peter points to his function as the foundation stone of Jesus’ Church.”
RT France continues: The term Peter, Rock, points to Simon and not his character because he could be very unstable, but rather his official function as the foundation stone of Jesus’ Church. The word-play is unmistakable.” He says, “It is only Protestant over-reaction to the Roman Catholic claim, of course, which has no foundation in the text, that what is here said of Peter applies also to the later Bishops of Rome.”
W. F. Albright, in his Anchor Bible Commentary on Matthew. “Peter as the Rock will be the foundation of the future community, the church. Jesus here uses Aramaic and so only the Aramaic word which would serve His purpose. In view of the background in verse 19, one must dismiss as confessional interpretation any attempt to see this rock as the faith or the confession of Peter.”
He continues on: “Isaiah 22, verse 15, undoubtedly lies behind this saying of Jesus. The keys are the symbol of authority and Father Roland DeVoe rightly sees here the same authority vested in the vicar, the master of the house, the chamberlain of the royal household in ancient Israel. In Isaiah 22 Eliakim is described as having the same authority.”
If you need more history lessons, even from your own protestants (sorry, no google), let me know.
Thanks, I’m OK, have a great day.
you too, merry christmas
The American bishops (with a few exceptions) have been in de facto schism for 50 years. That couldn’t have happened without the knowledge and consent of the laity. So we must pray for both clergy and laity, and we must call out the bishops’ transgressions when necessary. For example, I still am absolutely shocked that more Catholics aren’t raising the alarm about Catholic Campaign for Human Development. The bishops are getting away with spending millions on leftist, anti-Catholic causes and few lay people seem to care. http://www.reformcchdnow.com/
Thanks, I’ll take my chances with Jesus as the corner stone, as Peter himself described. All believers are the priesthood, and the Holy Spirit is the infallible guide.
You said it, Your Honor.
The evil spirits are everywhere and those who say stupidity such as “It’s all good” are Satan’s personal favorites. When people started to ignore evil or accept evil under the veil of “tolerance”, things got very dangerous for the righteous and the good.
Yes, there is a right and a wrong and being righteous is good.
When those dopey “philosophers” eg Emmanuel Kant started that Beyond Good and Evil garbage, they were being used as Satan’s tools
Regardless of what denomination it is, when a clergy of the Christian faith does something horribly immoral, it hurts all of us Christians.
God bless you and may He comfort you in His real and true presence. Even though I’m not Catholic, I hurt for my Catholic brothers and sisters in the faith over this.
"...who, being themselves but fallible and uninspired men, have assumed dominion over the faith of others, setting up their own opinions and modes of thinking as the only true and infallible, and as such endeavoring to impose them on others, hath established and maintained false religions over the greatest part of the world, and through all time;""I HAVE SWORN UPON THE ALTAR OF GOD ETERNAL HOSTILITY TO EVERY FORM OF TYRANNY OVER THE MIND OF MAN"--The Virginia Act For Establishing Religious Freedom
--Thomas Jefferson, 1786
I think Gary is seriously wrong here. While there's probably a sense in which it's wrong to criticize the church per se, it certainly isn't wrong to criticize particular members of the clergy when correction is warranted. In fact, it may be our duty as confirmed Catholics to do so in some circumstances.
It's rather odd that Gary cites St. Paul's conversion as his prooftext, because the same St. Paul went on to criticize St. Peter "to his face" for refusing table fellowship to Gentile believers in order to placate Jewish ones -- not only that, but he then goes on to recount the incident in the pages of Scripture (Galatians ch 2)!
I'm also reminded of St. Catherine of Siena who -- very respectfully and lovingly, but also very clearly -- told the Pope of her time that he belonged in Rome, not Avignon. She was neither a cleric nor even especially very educated. She was, however, right.
18 And I also say unto thee, that thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of Hades shall not prevail against it. [Return to Original Document]
Parallel
RSV 18: And I tell you, you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the powers of death shall not prevail against it.
NRSV 18 And I tell you, you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not prevail against it.
Douay 18 And I say to thee: That thou art Peter; and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. KJV 18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
WEB 18 I also tell you that you are Peter,{Peter's name, Petros in Greek, is the word for a specific rock or stone.} and on this rock{Greek, petra, a rock mass or bedrock.} I will build my assembly, and the gates of Hades{or, Hell} will not prevail against it.
ESV 18 And I tell you, you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
NASB 18 "I also say to you that you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build My church; and the gates of Hades will not overpower it.
NIV 18 And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it.
YOUNG 18 `And I also say to thee, that thou art a rock, and upon this rock I will build my assembly, and gates of Hades shall not prevail against it;
Greek 18: kagw <2504> de <1161> {AND I ALSO} soi <4671> {TO THEE} legw <3004> (5719) {SAY,} oti <3754> {THAT} su <4771> {THOU} ei <1488> (5748) {ART} petroV <4074> {PETER,} kai <2532> {AND} epi <1909> {ON} tauth <3778> th <3588> {THIS} petra <4073> {ROCK} oikodomhsw <3618> (5692) {I WILL BUILD} mou <3450> thn <3588> {MY} ekklhsian <1577> {ASSEMBLY,} kai <2532> {AND} pulai <4439> {GATES} adou <86> ou <3756> {OF HADES} katiscusousin <2729> (5692) {SHALL NOT PREVAIL AGAINST} authV <846> {IT.}
Vulgate 18 et ego dico tibi quia tu es Petrus et super hanc petram aedificabo ecclesiam meam et portae inferi non praevalebunt adversum eam
ASV 18 And I also say unto thee, that thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of Hades shall not prevail against it.
Darby 18And *I* also, I say unto thee that *thou* art Peter, and on this rock I will build my assembly, and hades' gates shall not prevail against it.
NKJV 18 And I also say to you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build My church, and the gates of Hades shall not prevail against it.
Other Related Passages
Matthew 4 18: As he walked by the Sea of Galilee, he saw two brothers, Simon who is called Peter and Andrew his brother, casting a net into the sea; for they were fishermen.
Matthew 11 23: And you, Caper'na-um, will you be exalted to heaven? You shall be brought down to Hades. For if the mighty works done in you had been done in Sodom, it would have remained until this day.
yes, and peter means ‘rock’, got it....
We must also keep in mind that when we criticize the Church (or her clergy), we criticize Christ.The Church is not Christ, it is the bride of Christ
The Church is make up of every single Christian in the world.
The Church meaning in the quote, is the Catholic church.
Which is make up of infallible human beings.
Including the clergy.
We should not be prevented from criticizing either a denomination or those in the denomination, clergy or lay people.
In fact in scripture we are admonished to do so.
It's my understanding that it is Catholic doctrine that every Christian in the world must "come back" to the Mother (Catholic) Church in order to be in God's good graces. (The Mormons have a similar belief, that all must be Mormons to be saved)
There are many Christians that have never been in the Catholic church, so of course cannot come back to it.
There is only one Christian church, as I said above, which is made up of all believers.
One Church, many denominations, of which Catholicism is one of many.
All Christian denominations.
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