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“Give the Scripture which contradicts what I posted.”

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Apparently you have refused to read my previous replies that are publicly posted for you and everyone else to see. Perhaps you have a selective reading blinder on?

... Again (er hem)

John 17: 15 Jesus said, “I pray NOT that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil.”

Jesus’ prayer is still in effect for us today. No rapture. No escape.

This contradicts EVERYTHING that you say about the so-called ‘rapture’. It is from the very sacred lips of our Saviour.

Moreover, I posted at length, the explanation of the inspired word HARPAZO (caught up). I gave the Scriptural examples and have included them below (please read).

In short, both Philip and this very same Paul (who wrote I Thes 4) were HARPAZO’d back in the first century.

Did either of them leave planet earth? ... Nooooooo.

Were either of them shot into outer space? ... Nooooooo.

Did they both continue on in their missionary journeys here on terra-firma earth after this HARPAZO experience? ... Yessssss.

So again, these scriptures below do indeed contradict your view of the so-called ‘rapture’, also.

Again, whatever you think that HARPAZO is, it is not enough to REVERSE the Cross of Christ in Daniel’s 70th Week to the Devil. That is an atrocious leap of faith to make.

I pray that you will do yourself a favour, and repent of your Dispensational sin.

I Thes 4: 17

“Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.”

caught up = HARPAZO

This word derivation is used twelve other times in the KJV New Testament. Most of these uses have to do with the physical taking away of someone or something from another. Never do they disappear from sight.

Two other times this word is used it implies that the person at hand has disappeared from sight, however, neither time is either of the people actually shot off into outer space - never to return.

Example 1: Philip meets the eunuch and is HARPOZA’d out of sight, but really walks on earth in the Gaza strip afterwards. Proof text:

Acts 8: 39-40. “And when they were come up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord caught away Philip , that the eunuch saw him no more: and he went on his way rejoicing. BUT PHILIP WAS FOUND AT AZOTUS: and passing through he preached in all the cities, till he came to Caesarea.”

Example 2: Paul speaks about the experience of being HARPAZO’d, but he is not sure if it is in the flesh or out of the flesh. Proof text:

II Cor 12: 3,4 “And I knew such a man, (whether in the body, or out of the body, I cannot tell : God knoweth ;) How that he was caught up into paradise, and heard unspeakable words, which it is not lawful for a man to utter.”

Suffice it to say, Paul continues on afterwards to complete his missionary journeys ON EARTH.

Therefore, using Scripture as our basis, it would be aberrant and sloppy to assign a shooting-off-into-outer-space type definition to the word HARPAZO in II Thes 4: 17.

Certainly, I would not be so careless as to REVERSE Jesus Christ for the Devil, just to satisfy my dogmatic apetite over it.

I advise all to proceed with the same caution because the Cross is at sake. In essence, Dispensationalism is a denial of Christ’s atonement.

Beside, Jesus Himself said:

John 17: 15 “I pray NOT that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil.”

Jesus’ prayer is still in effect for us today. No rapture. No escape.

I’m going to take compfort in His prayer.

In Christ Blessings, Amen.