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1 posted on 11/25/2011 7:50:13 PM PST by rzman21
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God the Holy Spirit brings us into the Church by baptizing us. It isn’t the little man who disobeys God, seeking to be called ‘father’ who brings us into the Body of Christ.


2 posted on 11/25/2011 7:54:22 PM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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In sum, priests are instrumental in bringing us into his grace, giving us strength through the Holy Spirit, making possible for us that we can receive the marvelous gift of Jesus Body and Blood which forgives sins, are God’s instruments in bringing us back to God when we disfellowship ourselves from God with mortal sins, or cleanse us when we have only venial sin, and give grace on our deathbed. From the beginning of our spiritual life, to the end of our spiritual life, it is priests who nourish Catholics with the Sacraments, and are instrumental in bringing us the means of salvation, in the beginning, middle, and the end of our lives. Priests are God’s instruments for our benefit, and they surely deserve the title ‘Father’.

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Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

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Sorry FRiend, but I don’t need a mortal man to accept Jesus, walk with Jesus, and live with Jesus. If I seek to serve him the Holy Spirit, not a mortal man, will move me when I sin and correct my path. I don’t need any mortal man to obtain the gift and spirit of Jesus Christ. “Give grace on my deathbed?” Jesus showers all who accept and love him with His grace. It is the greatest gift of Jesus, not a priest. Does a person who dies without a Priest present have less of the Grace of Christ than a person with a Priest?

Writings like this concern me. No earthly institution, church, denomination, or mortal man stands between me and God. Only one thing stands between us and God and it’s not a Priest (never mentioned in this context) -

“”Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.””

Belief in Jesus Christ is the key.... not a denomination or a Priest.


6 posted on 11/25/2011 8:18:31 PM PST by volunbeer (Keep the dope, we'll make the change in 2012!)
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To: rzman21

Your argument fails on two counts:
One, No one in the primitive Christian took the title of Father. No Father Paul, No Father Timothy, no Father John.

Two, No priesthood existed in that Christian congregation. The acting as priest/king was to be in heaven.


8 posted on 11/25/2011 8:24:57 PM PST by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: rzman21
Call no man father."

This is a controversy only in the minds of the ignorant or mischievous. The word used in Scripture was the Greek word "Pater" (πατήρ). According to Strong's Concordance (G3962) it has multiple meanings in Greek the majority of which do not impugn Catholics.

It is reasurring that anti-Catholics have to resort to fabricating difficulties out of whole cloth.

17 posted on 11/25/2011 9:06:45 PM PST by Natural Law (If you love the Catholic Church raise your hands, if not raise your standards.)
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To: rzman21

ping for later


26 posted on 11/25/2011 10:04:53 PM PST by erod (Unlike the President I am a true Chicagoan.)
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To: rzman21

Here is your answer:

http://www.catholic.com/tracts/call-no-man-father

Seems like some Protestants always try and find a way to discredit the Catholic Vhurch, the very Church that all other Christian religions came from...


27 posted on 11/25/2011 10:19:12 PM PST by neverbluffer
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If you have to explain it..... Why not just take the WORD for it’s word?


34 posted on 11/26/2011 2:08:24 AM PST by rawcatslyentist (It is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; ~Vattel's Law of Nations)
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To: rzman21; Cronos
I want to start off by looking at the passage in the larger context with the Revised Standard Version, Matthew 23:1-10:

What is this 'Revised Standard Version', isn't the original good enough? Christ said what He said. And yet man/woman just need to revise and extend, because they can do things better.

91 posted on 09/11/2012 12:14:07 AM PDT by Just mythoughts (Please help Todd Akin defeat Claire and the GOP-e send money!!!!!)
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