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"But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.: - Matthew 6:7


He answered and said unto them, Well hath Esaias prophesied of you hypocrites, as it is written, This people honoureth me with their lips, but their heart is far from me. Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men. For laying aside the commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of men, as the washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things ye do. And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition. - Mark 6:7-9
15 posted on 11/24/2011 8:44:05 AM PST by TSgt ("Romney" means "rino cult" in Kenyan)
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To: TSgt

Well, it only took 15 posts.


23 posted on 11/24/2011 8:52:59 AM PST by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: TSgt

Sorry to be thick, but I don’t follow you.

Could you be more direct in what you’re trying to say?


25 posted on 11/24/2011 8:54:11 AM PST by jtal (Runnin' a World in Need with White Folks' Greed - since 1492)
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The Mass according to St. John Newman, is the “Perfect Prayer” and so like the Lord’s Prayer it’s not be tampered with. This return to originality was long in coming. This is not about some mere ritual. It is the unbloodied but real re-enactment of the Last Supper, Crucifixtion, and Resurrection. A practice that predates the Bible and traced to His disciples.


31 posted on 11/24/2011 9:00:41 AM PST by Steelfish (ui)
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Great, you looked at Matthew 6:7. Now look at Matthew 26:44. Ask yourself, how Jesus didn’t violate Matthew 6:7 in 26:44. When you have the correct answer get back to us.


33 posted on 11/24/2011 9:02:44 AM PST by vladimir998
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"and with your spirit"

"et cum spiritu tuo"

That is how it used to be said, just in Latin.

41 posted on 11/24/2011 9:21:22 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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I see that proper worship of God is beyond some. Nice interjection. I have some kittens that you can stomp on.


43 posted on 11/24/2011 9:36:14 AM PST by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel, if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: TSgt

What will be taking place is simply bringing back the Catholic mass closer to its Biblical roots.


61 posted on 11/24/2011 12:13:33 PM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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Here's a great book to read so that you might update your knowledge. Your choice, of course!

A Biblical Walk Through the Mass by Edward Sri (Book Review) [Ecumenical]

A Biblical Walk Through the Mass (Book): Understanding What We Say and Do In The Liturgy

76 posted on 11/24/2011 4:47:40 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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What do you think the word "hosts" means in the sentence you quoted?

Here's the answer: Lists Every Catholic Should be Familiar With: The 9 Choirs of Angels

It's the choirs of angels!

79 posted on 11/24/2011 5:04:20 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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"And with your spirit" is what all of the ancient liturgies say. The oldest extant example is from the Anaphora of Hippolytus in the Apostolic Constitutions (maybe as old as the 3rd Century):

The deacons shall then bring the offering to [the bishop]; and he, imposing his hand upon it, along with all the presbytery, shall say: 'The Lord be with you'. And all shall respond: 'And with your spirit' ...
"For many for the forgiveness of sins" quotes Matthew 26:28. That's what the Scripture says.

"Blessed are those called to the supper" quotes Revelation 19:9. That's what the Scripture says.

"Holy, holy, holy, Lord God of hosts" quotes Isaiah 6:3. That's what the Scripture says.

We're hypocrites who nullify the Word of God by our "tradition" of translating it and quoting it correctly? That seems to be what you're saying.

80 posted on 11/24/2011 5:13:43 PM PST by Campion ("It is in the religion of ignorance that tyranny begins." -- Franklin)
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