Posted on 11/23/2011 11:11:08 AM PST by marshmallow
A notoriously 'gay-friendly' parish in San Francisco has invited an openly homosexual Episcopalian cleric to lead an Advent Vespers service.
Most Holy Redeemer parish asked Bishop Otis Charles, a retired Episcopalian prelate, to lead the November 30 service. After serving as the Bishop of Utah from 1971 to 1993, he publicly announced that he is homosexual. Divorced from the mother of his 5 children, he solemnized a same-sex union in 2004.
It’s an exercise for the lonely peripatetic heretic off in search of a gotcha from anywhere.
Even a blind hog finds an acorn now and again. Besides, they tend to make doctrine of stuff that can’t be proven.
“You are arguing from ignorance, a big logical fallacy.”
Actually it is an argument from the inferences drawn from the facts of scripture. Arguing from ignorance would be the result of the superstitious belief of the credulous.
I’ll put your fallible opinion with the rest of them. Garbage pickup is Monday.
7"And when you pray, do not heap up empty phrases as the Gentiles do, for they think that they will be heard for their many words. 8Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask him.
Matthew 7:7-11 7 "Ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you. 8For everyone who asks receives, and the one who seeks finds, and to the one who knocks it will be opened. 9Or which one of you, if his son asks him for bread, will give him a stone? 10Or if he asks for a fish, will give him a serpent? 11If you then, who are evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father who is in heaven give good things to those who ask him!
John 16:23-24 23 In that day you will ask nothing of me.Truly, truly, I say to you, whatever you ask of the Father in my name, he will give it to you. 24Until now you have asked nothing in my name. Ask, and you will receive, that your joy may be full.
Philippians 4:6 ...do not be anxious about anything, but in everything by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known to God.
For the life of me, I cannot figure out what some people think that praying to God isn't good enough, or that they're going to get something out of some other source than the Father Himself.
Jesus himself teaches us that the Church is to observe the Supper ‘in remembrance of me’. The word remembrance is the Greek word which literally means a memorial. The Supper is no altar of sacrifice, but a table of remembrance, a place of spiritual communion with the Saviour by his Spirit. To teach that Christ has instituted a means whereby his sacrifice can be perpetuated through time is to contradict the plain teaching of Scripture.
This becomes yet clearer from the identification of the Lord’s Supper with the Passover memorial of the Old Testament. The Lord’s Supper was first celebrated at the time of the Jewish Passover and Jesus specifically identifies it as an equivalent when he says: ‘I have earnestly desired to eat this Passover with you before I suffer’ (Luke 22:15). What exactly was the Passover? It was an annual feast established by God in which the Jews would remember the night in which the angel of death ‘passed over’ those families which had applied the blood of the lamb to their door-posts (Exod. 12:1-13). ‘Now this day will be a memorial to you, and you shall celebrate it as a feast to the Lord; throughout your generations you are to celebrate it as a permanent ordinance’ (Exod. 12:14). This was a ‘memorial’ to a specific act of God in redeeming his people from bondage and death. The ‘memorial’ served to bring to remembrance an important event. It did not repeat the event but kept it vivid in the memory through a physical representation.
Just as God instituted a memorial of remembrance of redemption in the Old Testament, he has done the same in the New Testament. 1 Corinthians 5:7 states, ‘For Christ our Passover also has been sacrificed.’ His death is an accomplished fact. Now we are called, not to a sacrifice, but to a feast: ‘Let us therefore celebrate the feast . . . with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth’ (1 Cor. 5:8). When Christ states that the bread is to be eaten and the wine drunk in remembrance of him, he is employing the same language as that of the Old Testament memorial in reference to the Passover. The Lord’s Supper is not a sacrifice, it is the commemoration of a sacrifice.
The body merely sleeps waiting Judgement Day.
Christ said of Jairus’ daughter, “The child is not dead but asleep” “…they all laughed him to scorn for they knew she was dead”. LK 8:53
Of Lazarus Jesus said, “”Our friend Lazarus has fallen asleep; but I am going there to wake him up.” JN 11:11
To which the disciples replied “…if he sleeps then he will get better” JN 11:13.
Jesus has to explain to them that He meant that Lazarus was dead. This is an instance where Jesus had to spell it out for them.
Those who believe do not die, though it seems to us they have. We sleep waiting for that day we will be raised up.
I would never propose to tell you where to put it! LOL
Read about the argument from ignorance to understand my point.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_ignorance
Read about the argument from ignorance to understand my point.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_ignorance
mcpf: LOL. So everything else that was not a sign done by Jesus in the presence of his disciples had to be included?
Can you actually address the actual question for once?
Is it that hard to admit that you were wrong?
Where's the chapter and verse where John said he did not include everything of importance.
Well, Latin IS a dead language, you know......
Ex-Catholics are the worst haters of the Catholicism because they have an ax to grind. Their position vis-a-vis Catholicism starts with their ax, and scripture is an afterthought.
Or they are more personally aware of the inherent evil in Catholicism.
Jesus didn't die on an altar anyway.
There was no altar at the Last Supper, they were reclining at the dinner table.
Altars are only for offering actual sacrifices. We don't offer the sacrifice of Jesus to god for our sins. He's not some thing we manipulate like that.
Jesus gave Himself up for our sins. He laid down His life on His own to take the punishment for our sins, dying in our place.
To treat Jesus as if He's some kind of animal to be brought to God by us to be slaughtered for our sins denigrates Him terribly. What an affront to God.
Ignorant is as ignorant does.
Nice try. Read in its entirety, St. Augustine’s letter does not mean what you would like and would like others to infer from the snippet you posted.
Here we have the ultimate buck passing. You are not responsible for your sins - Somebody else is. Therefore you get a free pass no matter what you do.
This is what we accuse the Protestant Reformation of, and what you guys keep trying to deny. Yet it is inherent in every post.
Evidently well before we had the Canon and the Mass.
God has commanded us to bury all of the dead? Scripture, please.
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