Yes. I have a jewish woman aquaintence who is fanactical over abortion and she also hates Sarah Palin. 
Oh well I guess that they have no worries about Obama and his Islamo Nazi friends. Sarc...
Posted on 11/23/2011 8:11:14 AM PST by tedbel
Ted Belman. Medved nails it when he says"The answer is that distinctive religious attitudes among Jews play a greater role in shaping voting behavior than ideology, education levels, income, or any sense of ethnic solidarity.[..]
"The voting behavior of American Jews conforms closely to the preferences of the irreligious and the unaffiliated precisely because so many of them are, in fact, theologically unaffiliated.
He goes on to say that Jews "cringe" at the thought of a believer in Jesus Christ becoming President. They will never get in bed with Christ believers no matter how much they love and want to protect Israel. This is in fact visceral for them. Secular Jews have no trouble embracing Muslims, who hate and kill Jews, but don't believe in Jesus Christ.
Will this change? No. Will the GOP change as suggested by Medved? No.
Christians will not understand this reaction because for them JC represents love and all that's good in the world. The Jews have been rejecting Jesus for 2000 years. The reality is that the Jews never accepted that Jesus was the messiah. It was a Christian thing to accuse the Jews of rejecting Jesus as the messiah and thus the Christians set the narrative. The Christians also justified their religion by re-interpreting the scriptures to conform to their developing theology. The Jews see this as historical revisionism or identity theft or conversion (taking someone's else's property and treating it as their own).
Christians will no doubt blame the Jews for their visceral reaction, rather than look to themselves as the cause of it.
Column: How not to win the Jewish vote By Michael Medved
If Republicans hope to draw Jewish support , they must first confront the real reasons Jews vote so differently from other Americans.
(Excerpt) Read more at israpundit.com ...
Which means that the entire meme of "Republicans need to pretend they are not devout Christians so as to not alienate Jews" is a red herring, to divert attention away from the fact that the (Reform/secular) Jewish vote goes to the more Leftist candidate. Which means that calls for toning down the Christianity will not appease Jewish voters, while alienating Christian voters.
Jews naturally prefer the Democrat Party because it is more compatible with the values of statism and socialism which are the consequences of the basic Talmudic ethical and social values of altruism and collectivism.
“No more bigoted than an Evangelical voter rejecting a candidate PURELY for their Mormonism.”
The truth is not bigoted, mormanism is a false religion. They lay no claim to Jesus Christ of the bible. Therefore, the premise of your statement is not supportable.
All religions are false to someone who is not an adherent. Mormons claim to be the Church of Jesus Christ and Latter Day Saints. The premise of my statement is entirely supportable.
If it is bigotry to reject a candidate because they differ from your religion, it is bigotry to reject a candidate because they differ from your religion.
The religion of either the voter doing the rejecting or the candidate being rejected is immaterial.
If it is bigotry to reject a candidate because of their religion then it is bigotry to reject a candidate because of their religion.
To Jewish people, for example, all Christian religions are “false”.
So how is it that religious Jews, many of whom study Talmud daily, tend to vote Republican while secular Jews who share your disdain for the Talmud tend to vote Democrat?
There are many issues at stake in elections, but consider how Jews vote on Zionism. Medved will not admit this, but don’t Jewish majorities usually choose the candidate that is least the pro-Zionist? Ironically, Republicans may be losing Jewish votes precisely because they are considered too pro-Zionist.
If you were familiar with the Bible you would not be comparing me to David Koresh.
Most people do not read the Bible. Some read "about" the Bible, but don't read it themselves. Far fewer have actually read it all the way through even once. Yet they consider themselves "experts." No scripture is subject to private interpretation. Instead, the Bible must be used to explain itself. In other words no single verse is used to justify bizarre doctrines. Instead a "concert of witnesses" (multiple verses and books in context) must used to inform doctrine.
For example: Who are the "children of promise"? Many people think this is the physical descendants of Abraham. These same people clearly do not read the Bible. Because, if they did, they'd discover the Bible says that the children of promise are NOT the physical descendants of Abraham, but rather those who believe in the Lord Jesus Christ. This includes both believing Jews and believing Gentiles. Here are a few scriptures that support this doctrine:
"For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel: Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called. That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed." (Romans 9:6-8)Not all who are physically descended from "Israel" (Jacob) are spiritual Israel. Which begs the question: Who is spiritual Isreal?
"Cometh this blessedness then upon the circumcision only, or upon the uncircumscision also? for we say that faith was reckoned to Abraham for righteousness. How was it then reckoned? when he was in circumcision, or in uncircumcision? Not in circumcision, but in uncircumcision. And he received the sign of circumcision, a seal of the righteousness of the faith which he had yet being uncircumcised: that he might be the father of all them that believe, though they be not circumcised; that righteousness might be imputed unto them also: And the father of circumcision to them who are not of the circumcision only, but who also walk in the steps of that faith of our father Abraham, which he had being yet uncircumcised. For the promise, that he should be the heir of the world, was not to Abraham, or to his seed, through the law, but through the righteousness of faith." (Romans 4:9-14)
We discover that true Israel are all those who like Abraham believe God. So, who are the seed?
Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ. (Galatians 3:16)
Paul concludes by saying:
"For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus. For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. And if ye be Christ's, the are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise." (Galations 3:26-29)
If one is "in Christ Jesus", then he is a child of the promise. Modern Jews, even religious Jews, are not the children of promise, because as unbelievers they are not in Christ.
But Israel, which followed after the law of righteousness, hath not attained to the law of righteousness. Wherefore? Because they sought it not by faith, but as it were by the works of the law. For they stumbled at that stumblingstone; As it is written, Behold, I lay in Sion a stumblingstone and rock of offense: and whosever believeth on him shall not be ashamed. (Romans 9:31-33)
I will conclude with Jesus' own words:
Jesus saith unto them (Scribes and Pharisees), Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord's doing, and it is marvelous in our eyes? Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken away from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof. [And whosoever shall fall on this stone shall be broken: but on whom it shall fall, it will grind him to stone.](Matthew 12:42-44)
“All religions are false to someone who is not an adherent. Mormons claim to be the Church of Jesus Christ and Latter Day Saints. The premise of my statement is entirely supportable.
If it is bigotry to reject a candidate because they differ from your religion, it is bigotry to reject a candidate because they differ from your religion.
The religion of either the voter doing the rejecting or the candidate being rejected is immaterial.
If it is bigotry to reject a candidate because of their religion then it is bigotry to reject a candidate because of their religion.
To Jewish people, for example, all Christian religions are “false”.”
Yes, but there is only 1 true God, and that is God of the bible. All other God’s are false. That is my belief, and I have no problem supporting my faith. I cannot be a bigot for not supporting a Morman candidate because bigotry requires me to acknowldge the truth of mormanism, which I cannot and will not.
Yes. I have a jewish woman aquaintence who is fanactical over abortion and she also hates Sarah Palin.
Oh well I guess that they have no worries about Obama and his Islamo Nazi friends. Sarc...
DNC chair: Jews will vote for Obama
Politico ^
Posted on Thursday, September 22, 2011 8:15:41 AM by Sub-Driver
DNC chair: Jews will vote for Obama By: MJ Lee September 22, 2011 08:27 AM EDT
The chairwoman of the Democratic National Committee says President Barack Obama and the Democratic Party will own the Jewish vote in 2012.
Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz (D-Fla.) on Thursday pushed back hard against the claim that Democrats recently lost a House seat in a traditionally blue district in New York as a result of Obama’s weak policy on Israel.
”That is absolutely not the case, and it will be demonstrated in the election next year that the natural home for Jewish voters, both domestically in terms of policy and in our Israel policy, is the Democratic Party and President Obama as our candidate,” Schultz said on Fox News.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2782087/posts
Imagine a headline that said “Why don’t Christians vote Democrat? It’s the Jews”.
nonsporting is teaching orthodox, historical Christianity, believed for 2,000 years.
he may have added that Jesus cursed the fig tree, representing corporal israel, and said it would never bear fruit again.
Jesus also said the Kingdom would be taken from the Jews because of unbelief and given to another nation. that nation is the Church, a nation of believers ( comprised of gentiles and jews )
That is orthodox antisemitism. Jewish people are Jewish.
Israel has been restored as promised. Zion isn't in Waco Texas.
not according to St Paul ( i guess he was antisemitic right? )
Romans 2:28-29
for he is not a real Jew who is one outwardly nor is true circumcision something external and physical. He is a Jew who is one inwardly, and real circumcision is a matter of the heart, spiritual and not literal. His praise is not from men, but from God.
true Israel, heirs to the promises made to Abraham, believe in Christ.
Jewish people are those that have a certain DNA, the Israel of God is the Body of Christ.
after reading Romans 2, was St Paul antisemitic?
in Genesis 22:18, God said to Abraham that all nations of the world would be blessed through his offspring, because he obeyed God.
now, what offspring does this refer to?
Christians bringing the good news of salvation through faith in Jesus Christ and His sacrificial death, or
Jews containing a certain DNA?
Do yourself a favor and read the book of Romans Chapters 10 & 11 without interruption.(takes about 10 minutes). Then ask yourself how could a man who was dead before 70 AD could have spoken so matter-of-factly about these things. And how people(of the Pagan world) with no cultural/ethnic/linguistic connections to Israel would respond to his cult/heresy rejected widely by his fellow Jews.
I've already read it. I've read the whole thing. I used to be a chrstian, you know.
You simply refuse to understand something: you condemn mormons for what you are doing right now--"proving" your religious beliefs simply by quoting your own holy book. Don't you understand that every religion can be proven by its own holy book? None of that matters!
Even chrstianity acknowledges that G-d spoke to Israel at Sinai. Did this G-d written Torah anywhere contain an expiration date? No it did not. It was permanent. No other religion was ever necessary, and all the others that followed it are false. Period.
When you find an authorization for chrstianity in the Torah (and I mean in the Torah, no quoting the "new testament"'s interpretation of and claims about the Torah), then let me know.
The Torah G-d gave Israel does not allow for any such religion as chrstianity. Period. No matter how beautiful you think the "new testament" is.
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