Why don't Jews vote Republican? Its the Jesus Christ

ISRAPUNDIT ^ | Nov 23/11 | Michael Medved

[tedbel]

Ted Belman. Medved nails it when he says

"The answer is that distinctive religious attitudes among Jews play a greater role in shaping voting behavior than ideology, education levels, income, or any sense of ethnic solidarity.[..]

"The voting behavior of American Jews conforms closely to the preferences of the irreligious and the unaffiliated precisely because so many of them are, in fact, theologically unaffiliated.

He goes on to say that Jews "cringe" at the thought of a believer in Jesus Christ becoming President. They will never get in bed with Christ believers no matter how much they love and want to protect Israel. This is in fact visceral for them. Secular Jews have no trouble embracing Muslims, who hate and kill Jews, but don't believe in Jesus Christ.

Will this change? No. Will the GOP change as suggested by Medved? No.

Christians will not understand this reaction because for them JC represents love and all that's good in the world. The Jews have been rejecting Jesus for 2000 years. The reality is that the Jews never accepted that Jesus was the messiah. It was a Christian thing to accuse the Jews of rejecting Jesus as the messiah and thus the Christians set the narrative. The Christians also justified their religion by re-interpreting the scriptures to conform to their developing theology. The Jews see this as historical revisionism or identity theft or conversion (taking someone's else's property and treating it as their own).

Christians will no doubt blame the Jews for their visceral reaction, rather than look to themselves as the cause of it.

Column: How not to win the Jewish vote By Michael Medved

If Republicans hope to draw Jewish support , they must first confront the real reasons Jews vote so differently from other Americans.

[montag813]

Religious Jews (Chabad, etc) are working hard to reverse this. But for Secular “Jews” (JINOs) it is unfortunately very true. I have a relative I no longer speak to because we got in shouting matches over her hatred of Sarah Palin - “too Christian” - in 2008 and her constant emails to family members that influenced them to back Obama. I followed up by emailing her and everyone over Obama’s Jew hatred, and I now refuse to speak to her. I am DONE tolerating this crap. Meanwhile my Orthodox Jewish relatives all voted for Bush and McCain/Palin, and they have great relations with Evangelical Christians. It is the phony socialist “Jews” that are the problem. Thankfully, they are having 1 kid apiece, or aborting, or turning gay, or intermarrying, so like the builders of the Golden Calf, they will be cleansed within a generation.

[Uri’el-2012]

Many Jews confuse Tikkun Olam with Marxism.

Many think that Marxism is a mitzvot.

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach

[chuckee]

Given Medved’s logic, if 2 Jewish candidates opposed one another, the conservative candidate would have as much a chance as the liberal candidate. I don’t think so. I personally think secular Jews would vote overwhelmingly for a Christian liberal over a Jewish conservative.

[Bloody Sam Roberts]

He goes on to say that Jews "cringe" at the thought of a believer in Jesus Christ becoming President. They will never get in bed with Christ believers no matter how much they love and want to protect Israel. This is in fact visceral for them. Secular Jews have no trouble embracing Muslims, who hate and kill Jews, but don't believe in Jesus Christ.

So wrong...so wrong. First of all it also is a very, very broad generalization that cannot explain the behavior of all who are Jewish...only those who are morons and stupidity knows no religious bounds.

I have an entire half of my family (wifey's side) that is Jewish. They have no problem with celebrating Christmas with my half of the family, no problems engaging in thoughtful theological discussions (my brother is a minister). It has nothing to do with any alleged aversion to a believer in Jesus Christ becoming president. I know this because I and my wife have "converted" many of her relatives to the Conservative view and they vote Republican. There are very few...1 or 2...who still vote Dem. And that has NOTHING to do with theology. When I ask, I am told, "Because my father and his father and his father before him all voted Democrat."

Flawlessly logical, right? Hmmmf.

Second of all, it only explains Jews who have never read the Koran. It states that Christians, Jews and Muslims are all people of the book. The share many things in common. It states that devout Muslims should kill infidels and that term is clearly defined and does not include 'people of the book'.

But then, the Koran is very contradictory in many ways.

I would reject this whole premise of Jews voting Dem because of a Christ hatred on it's face.

[Navy Patriot]

Jews need to think hard and long about who their friends really are.

They always do,.........when they are in the camps.

[allmendream]

To me it makes about as much sense as blaming Catholics for predominantly voting for the other party - and then going on to blame Catholicism......

But when you look at the numbers - the majority of the people you are counting are only Catholic via family and not belief or practice - and those who are ACTUALLY Catholic and are observant and religious - they vote WITH your party.

It would make me question the motivations and assumptions of the person trying to tie to to Catholicism to me.

[reefdiver]

It’s not necessary to have the Jews vote conservative. If a Jew is ashamed of Christ that is His problem, not mine. We are who we are, I am for Christ and my goal is eternity with Him.

[reaganaut]

I read a book that came out in the 1970’s that told of conversions by Jews to Christianity (my words) by Jews for Jesus. It also included the testimony of Jay Sewkelow which was really interesting.

Anyway, the point I found most compelling was how many told of moving to Israel or speaking to their Jewish family who said “I don’t believe in G-D, I believe in Israel” and had a vile hatred for Christians. That is the real issue, they are culturally Jewish only which is why the support the liberals. As you pointed out, Jews who believe in G-D, usually don’t usually have an issue with Christians and tend to vote conservative. We have many Jewish FReepers.

[allmendream]

Matthew 7:21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’ 23 Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’

[aruanan]

Second of all, it only explains Jews who have never read the Koran. It states that Christians, Jews and Muslims are all people of the book. The share many things in common.

Principally because Mohammed cobbled together Islam from Christian and Jewish scriptures and traditions. He used Ishmael as a means of expropriating some sort of scriptural/historical legitimacy for him and his religion (same tactic used by British-Israelism, including its American variant). If everything of a Christian and Jewish origin were taken out of the Koran, there would be very little left.

[Gene Eric]

It’s the abortion thing.

[Texas Eagle]

Thanks for the assist.

[PapaBear3625]

Christian Conservatives should remember that Evangelicals constitute only one-fourth or, at most, one-third of the electorate. Republicans must, therefore, leave plenty of room in their coalition for Mormons, Muslims, Hindus (like the parents of the triumphantly re-elected Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal) and especially the growing number of Americans who see themselves as disconnected, even disillusioned with traditional faith. If Republicans do broaden their range of religious (and irreligious) representation, they might finally inspire the surge of new Jewish support they've sought for a generation.

"For what does it profit a man to gain the whole world, and forfeit his soul?" -- Mark 8:36

The author says Christians constitute "only" 25-33% of the electorate, and should be ignored in order to court a segment that constitutes around 2% of the population. Really?

Even if the GOP dumped all mention of Christianity, there is still the Socialist segment of the Jewish community which would never vote GOP anyway.

[aruanan]

The reality is that the Jews never accepted that Jesus was the messiah. It was a Christian thing to accuse the Jews of rejecting Jesus as the messiah and thus the Christians set the narrative.

First, there have been plenty of Jews over the past 2 millennia who have accepted that Jesus is the Messiah. Second, it was a Jewish thing to accuse the leadership of Israel of rejecting Jesus as the Messiah (see Jesus, Peter, and Paul, all Jews, in this regard).

[aruanan]

Christians will no doubt blame the Jews for their visceral reaction, rather than look to themselves as the cause of it.

Ha ha. This is a good example of projection.

[MasterGunner01]

This was a very basic question that's hotly debated on the Jews Fot The Preservation Of Firearms Ownership (JFPO) site. Not only do Jews mindlessly vote for the people who would strip them of their property, but their means to defend their very lives as well. Secular Jews are Liberals first, last, and always. They are totally blind to the realities.

As far as the Holocaust goes, some of them actually believe its architects were “Christians.” This is totally bogus. Nazis were anything BUT Christians. Those who weren't Atheists were into some wacko Nordic god theism. Nazis persecuted and killed the religious and nonreligious without much regard. If anything, the Final Solution owes as much to the weird beliefs of Reichsführer of the SS Heinrich Himmler and the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem Mohammad Amin al-Husayni. Nazism and Islam were and are joined at the political hip since the 1930s.

Of course secular Jewish liberals cannot fathom why Nazis, Communists, and Muslims would want to exterminate them. Instead they are the useful idiot enablers of their antisemitic exterminators. They conjure images of "Christian" bogeymen to soothe their own bigotry while the real, deadly bigots get a pass.

[allmendream]

Evangelicals. Not all Christians are Evangelicals.

Evangelical Christians are “at most, one-third of the electorate” according to the author.

[DManA]

They weren’t treated very well by the officially atheist Soviets either.

[allmendream]

http://archive.frontpagemag.com/readArticle.aspx?ARTID=15996

The Socialist Roots of Antisemitism.

This article does a great job of explaining why socialism is inherently racist.

[PapaBear3625]

Evangelical Christians are “at most, one-third of the electorate” according to the author.

I stand corrected, but my point remains: given a choice between dumping the Evangelical segment and telling anti-Christian Jewish voters to get over their bias, the rational choice is to tell Jewish voters "You're welcome to come over. We will not disavow a core segment of our support to make you happy. Get over yourselves."

If Evangelicals stay home, Republicans lose. They constitute well over half of the people who vote Republican.

I would also say the same to people who say the Republican Party must embrace Affirmative Action and more public benefit spending to not alienate the black vote, and illegal alien amnesty to attract Hispanics, and for similar reasons.