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1 posted on 11/22/2011 9:10:27 PM PST by pastorbillrandles
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Was it really an apple?

Or was it something other than an apple? Did God say to Adam and Eve that they would now know nakedness, and because of what Eve had done women would have to bare children in a painful way. Was this punishment for Eve actually introducing Adam to sex. God had said that he could give them anything that they desired [even children], but after the delicious apple was eaten God decided that child baring was the woman's painful punishment.

2 posted on 11/22/2011 9:21:57 PM PST by Why So Serious (There is no cure for stupidity!!!)
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I had read it was a pomegranate.
3 posted on 11/22/2011 9:39:56 PM PST by allmost
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6 And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was a delight to the eyes, and that the tree was to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat; and she gave also unto her husband with her, and he did eat. [Return to Original Document]

Parallel RSV 6: So when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was a delight to the eyes, and that the tree was to be desired to make one wise, she took of its fruit and ate; and she also gave some to her husband, and he ate.

NRSV 6 So when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was a delight to the eyes, and that the tree was to be desired to make one wise, she took of its fruit and ate; and she also gave some to her husband, who was with her, and he ate.

Douay 6 And the woman saw that the tree was good to eat, and fair to the eyes, and delightful to behold: and she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave to her husband who did eat.

NAB 6 The woman saw that the tree was good for food, pleasing to the eyes, and desirable for gaining wisdom. So she took some of its fruit and ate it; and she also gave some to her husband, who was with her, and he ate it.

KJV 6 And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.

WEB 6 When the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was a delight to the eyes, and that the tree was to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit of it, and ate; and she gave some to her husband with her, and he ate.

ESV 6 So when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was a delight to the eyes, and that the tree was to be desired to make one wise, she took of its fruit and ate, and she also gave some to her husband who was with her, and he ate.

NASB 6 When the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was a delight to the eyes, and that the tree was desirable to make one wise, she took from its fruit and ate; and she gave also to her husband with her, and he ate.

NIV 6 When the woman saw that the fruit of the tree was good for food and pleasing to the eye, and also desirable for gaining wisdom, she took some and ate it. She also gave some to her husband, who was with her, and he ate it.

YOUNG 6 And the woman seeth that the tree [is] good for food, and that it [is] pleasant to the eyes, and the tree is desirable to make [one] wise, and she taketh of its fruit and eateth, and giveth also to her husband with her, and he doth eat;

Greek 6: kousaV <191> (5660) {HAVING HEARD} de <1161> {BUT} hrwdhV <2264> {HEROD} o <3588> {THE} basileuV <935> {KING} etaracqh <5015> (5681) {HE WAS TROUBLED} kai <2532> {AND} pasa <3956> {ALL} ierosoluma <2414> {JERUSALEM} met <3326> {WITH} autou <846> {HIM} met authV <1473> {IT} kai <2532> {AND} efagon <2068> {THEY ATE}

Vulgate 6 vidit igitur mulier quod bonum esset lignum ad vescendum et pulchrum oculis aspectuque delectabile et tulit de fructu illius et comedit deditque viro suo qui comedit

ASV 6 And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was a delight to the eyes, and that the tree was to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat; and she gave also unto her husband with her, and he did eat.

Darby 6And the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was a pleasure for the eyes, and the tree was to be desired to give intelligence; and she took of its fruit, and ate, and gave also to her husband with her, and he ate.

NKJV 6 So when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree desirable to make one wise, she took of its fruit and ate. She also gave to her husband with her, and he ate.

Other Related Passages

Romans 5 12: Therefore as sin came into the world through one man and death through sin, and so death spread to all men because all men sinned --

Romans 5 13: sin indeed was in the world before the law was given, but sin is not counted where there is no law.

Romans 5 14: Yet death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over those whose sins were not like the transgression of Adam, who was a type of the one who was to come.

Romans 5 15: But the free gift is not like the trespass. For if many died through one man's trespass, much more have the grace of God and the free gift in the grace of that one man Jesus Christ abounded for many.

Romans 5 16: And the free gift is not like the effect of that one man's sin. For the judgment following one trespass brought condemnation, but the free gift following many trespasses brings justification.

Romans 5 17: If, because of one man's trespass, death reigned through that one man, much more will those who receive the abundance of grace and the free gift of righteousness reign in life through the one man Jesus Christ.

Romans 5 18: Then as one man's trespass led to condemnation for all men, so one man's act of righteousness leads to acquittal and life for all men.

Romans 5 19: For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by one man's obedience many will be made righteous.

1 Timothy 2 14: and Adam was not deceived, but the woman was deceived and became a transgressor.

James 1 14: but each person is tempted when he is lured and enticed by his own desire.

James 1 15: Then desire when it has conceived gives birth to sin; and sin when it is full-grown brings forth death.

1 John 2 16: For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh and the lust of the eyes and the pride of life, is not of the Father but is of the world.

5 posted on 11/22/2011 10:06:54 PM PST by johngrace (1 John 4!- declared at every Sunday Mass.)
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6 posted on 11/22/2011 10:17:52 PM PST by GOP Poet (Obama is an OLYMPIC failure.)
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Adam was the spiritual head. He was the one who received God's instruction - not Eve. And he stood right there and said nothing while the serpent was questioning Eve. And then afterwards, he blamed God for what happened.

Not that God was surprised. He had already told Adam what would happen when he ate of the fruit, not if.

7 posted on 11/22/2011 10:18:28 PM PST by Hoodat (Because they do not change, Therefore they do not fear God. -Psalm 55:19-)
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another excellent article pastorbillrandles. Thank you.


9 posted on 11/22/2011 10:26:28 PM PST by GOP Poet (Obama is an OLYMPIC failure.)
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It is apparent that sin is genetically passed down through the male. This is how Mary was able to be the mother of Jesus and not pass sin to him. That is also why Eve was called the mother of all living, life, apart from sin, was able to be passed down through her.


10 posted on 11/23/2011 12:31:54 AM PST by Bellflower (Judas Iscariot, first democrat, robber, held the money bag, claimed to care for poor: John 12:4-6)
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Also, Eve was the mother of all living because through the fact that sin did not pass genetically down through her Jesus was to be born of woman without acquiring original sin. Jesus is our life and became eternal life to all who would believe in Him and His sacrifice for us upon the cross which paid the blood price of our sins. We are the "all living" that Eve became the mother of.
11 posted on 11/23/2011 12:37:06 AM PST by Bellflower (Judas Iscariot, first democrat, robber, held the money bag, claimed to care for poor: John 12:4-6)
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Do you actually think that is is going to win even one soul over? This is a barbarian interpretation of Adam's sin. God formed Eve from Adam's rib - that is to say he formed her from Adam's erotic imagination. She was his completion. Together, they were a unity. They sinned together as two hearts beating as one. As one flesh.

Go on, destroy people's faith, make this generation the last to know of Christ. You are an Anti-Woman Barbarian! Such primativism!!! Check out Adam Hamilton's book “When Christians Get it Wrong” and “Seeing Gray in a World of Black and White.” Check out Sojourners magazine for legitimate Christianity.

Anti-Woman old men like you will be the end of Christianity. You need to become more emotionally liberated.

15 posted on 11/23/2011 2:34:46 AM PST by Wild Berry
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Christianity cannot reach the next generation with this type of vain posturing.

Your children will become Wiccans if they listen to this. Have you ever even thought about what you preach? You ARE trying to condemn people. (The idea of this post is, let us condemn women for the sins of Adam.)

You can only condemn somebody who is already contrite. If they are not contrite, then what are you doing? How can you expect to do anything other than repel people? How will you interest them in your rebuke? Are there any feminist listening to you, accepting your correction? Or will a feminist read you and become polarized against you?

I cannot believe that you could possibly believe this line of reasoning is fruitful. I am mortified.

You repel, you do not attract.


16 posted on 11/23/2011 2:34:47 AM PST by Wild Berry
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Didn’t God know exactly what was going to happen before He even created her?


18 posted on 11/23/2011 4:13:18 AM PST by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different.")
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Moses writes that when the couple ‘ate’ the fruit they realized they were naked. And the couple partied in the ‘fig’ grove as it was with ‘fig’ leaves they covered their nakedness. Wonder now think maybe Christ was referencing this first mention of ‘figs’ when He said to learn the parable of the ‘fig’ tree? Figs do have an interesting horticultural requirement to produce.


24 posted on 11/23/2011 8:34:41 AM PST by Just mythoughts (Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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