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To: pastorbillrandles
Was it really an apple?

Or was it something other than an apple? Did God say to Adam and Eve that they would now know nakedness, and because of what Eve had done women would have to bare children in a painful way. Was this punishment for Eve actually introducing Adam to sex. God had said that he could give them anything that they desired [even children], but after the delicious apple was eaten God decided that child baring was the woman's painful punishment.

2 posted on 11/22/2011 9:21:57 PM PST by Why So Serious (There is no cure for stupidity!!!)
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To: Why So Serious

I have come to believe exactly that. It was sex, not an apple. Not literal. Question is, why is it worded the way it is? “You may eat of any tree in the garden but not the one in the midst of the graden you must not eat or your eyes will be opened” or something very close to that. All the “trees” in the garden they could have sex with except one?! Some say that trees stood for nations/races. What do you think?


12 posted on 11/23/2011 1:21:07 AM PST by kelly4c
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To: Why So Serious
but after the delicious apple was eaten God decided that child baring was the woman's painful punishment.

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Gen 3:16 Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire [shall be] to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.

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The woman was to have more children. Her sorrow and her conception was multiplied. This shows us that Eve would have had children without the fall. She just would have had far less conceptions, who knows maybe one child every 1000 years. We don't know, but we do know that she would of conceived, just much less. It is implied that there may have been a small amount of sorrow or pain if the fall had not taken place because sorrow was multiplied. You cannot multiply zero.

So you see that child bearing would have happened if the fall had not happened, but would have been much less. The undesirable result of the fall was that she would have many more children, which would be hard on her. With all of those children she would also be very dependent on her husband for not only her survival but the survival of her children. She would also give birth with much greater pain. It was the increase in conception and pain that was her "punishment" not giving birth itself which would have happened even without the fall.

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Hbr 13:4 Marriage [is] honourable in all, and the bed undefiled: but whoremongers and adulterers God will judge.

14 posted on 11/23/2011 2:01:16 AM PST by Bellflower (Judas Iscariot, first democrat, robber, held the money bag, claimed to care for poor: John 12:4-6)
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To: Why So Serious

“Was it really an apple?

Or was it something other than an apple?”

And where do you see any mention of an apple?


20 posted on 11/23/2011 5:36:06 AM PST by Diapason
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To: Why So Serious

His problem was being offered food by naked Eve.


25 posted on 11/23/2011 8:36:38 AM PST by bmwcyle (Obama is a Communist, a Muslim, and an illegal alien)
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