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1 posted on 11/07/2011 12:51:07 AM PST by Love Wisdom Truth
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To: Love Wisdom Truth

Welcome to FR.


2 posted on 11/07/2011 12:54:56 AM PST by kalee (The offenses we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we engrave in marble. J Huett 1658)
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To: Love Wisdom Truth
"The Budist [sic] is a Christian."

Does your mom know you're still up?!

3 posted on 11/07/2011 12:59:13 AM PST by Semper Mark (Vlad Tepes was a piker.)
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To: Love Wisdom Truth
Spelling aside - there are a great number of similarities in Buddhism and Christianity
However, one should also factor in that there are a number of subsets of Buddhism that make the similarities less and less.
One might say that this is also a factor in Christianity - there are such a number of different Christian groups that have varying beliefs.

However the base belief in Christianity is in salvation through accepting the Lord Jesus Christ as ones personal Savior and following the principles he taught.

Buddhism does not promote such an exclusive path. It requires adherence and acceptance of:
The four noble truths
The Noble Eightfold Path
The Five Precepts
The Dharma Seals

There is a 'rebirth' of sorts...but its quite different that the Christian 'rebirth in Christ' thing.

Obviously, its not a question that can be answered in a witty reply with any accuracy.
4 posted on 11/07/2011 1:03:52 AM PST by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus sum)
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To: Love Wisdom Truth

What is a budist and who is buda? And if you couldn’t spell it, why would you choose to put up a vanity about it?


6 posted on 11/07/2011 1:25:12 AM PST by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: Love Wisdom Truth; Tainan; knarf
There are buddhists on freerepublic but they stay away from the Religion Forum

you are also wrong to state that Buddhists are Christian. buddhism, especially Hinayana/Theravada buddhism is not a religion but a philosophy and inherently athiestic

prince Gautama arose out of Vedic times and rejected the cycle of birth and rebirth. He adopted the ideas of Mahavira with the aim of folks reaching adinatha status but softened it from jainism

Both jaina and buddha philosophies are essentially derived from Vedic thought based on the never-ending cycles. This is quite different from Judeao-Christian linear progression of time

Also, Vedic hinduism was polytheistic, and jaina is strongly anti-creator deity. Buddhism hedges its bets but is also to a large extent like jainism stating that there is no creator deity.

This of course is completely opposite to the Judeo-Christian monotheistic tradition

Christianity also, whichever denomination, states that one cannot "save" oneself while Buddhism essentially says that

In Christianity you can be a good guy, a Gandhi, but if you don't accept Jesus Christ as God, no go (to the point of Gandhi, we don't know about his convictions, so for him personaly I will not comment). For Buddhism on the other hand, you focus on your meditations, karma and over several lifetimes (as we see in Gautama's previous births and rebirths), you attain Nirvana.

So, the very fundamentals are different as the originating sources (Hinduism v/s Judaism) differ.

Also do note that in Buddhism being ahimsa is not for the sake of love of God as in Christianity but for the "selfish" reason of it adding to your karma.

7 posted on 11/07/2011 1:25:58 AM PST by Cronos
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To: Love Wisdom Truth
Love Wisdom & Truth, do you?

We'll see.

To be wrong about creation is to be wrong about everything. --Robert Bolton, The One and the Many

"... meaning, purpose, and unity (or wholeness) are all functions of one another. To see the whole is to understand the meaning, and vice versa. For example, you can't understand the purpose of the heart if you don't situate it in the context of the body it serves. Likewise, words take on entirely different shades of meaning depending on the sentence in which they are situated.

Again, one of the important points Bolton raises is that nondualism is nihilsim, which is to say, meaningless. Or, you could say that the meaning of existence is its ultimate meaninglessness.

He points out the irony that the principle of karma -- of moral cause and effect -- is central to Buddhism.

And yet, when it comes to the totality -- the whole -- "they deny that there is any cause for the world as such.

Their passion for causality suddenly evaporates just where causality approaches its most significant consequence."

(And please bear in mind that Bolton is not being remotely disrespectful, only trying to clearly describe the differences, and their consequences, between atheistic nondualism and theistic dualism.) ....."

HERE

10 posted on 11/07/2011 1:36:05 AM PST by Matchett-PI ("A Republican Larry Flynt should wave around $50,000 for proof of sexual harassment at Politico" -RL)
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To: Love Wisdom Truth

Y?

Or just sometimes Y?


11 posted on 11/07/2011 1:36:55 AM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: Love Wisdom Truth

Yes, but only if a cat is a dog (both have 4 legs and a tail).


13 posted on 11/07/2011 1:42:10 AM PST by The_Media_never_lie
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"....It is not only a certain type of Buddhist who is susceptible to this kind of moral foolishness. Obviously it can also afflict Christians who take this or that statement by Jesus out of context in order to support the deeply immoral idea of pacifism. In reality, there is no right superior to truth. Therefore, if your morality is not grounded in truth, it will cease to be moral despite your good intentions.

This, of course, is precisely what is wrong with all forms of leftist “do-gooderism,” and why their ideas do not work in practice. To be perfectly accurate, like the Dalai Lama’s ideas, they will work, but only in paradise -- as will Mao’s ideas. But if you willfully confuse the herebelow with paradise, a lot of people are going to be hurt and killed. And you won’t get paradise anyway. ...."

HERE

14 posted on 11/07/2011 1:46:40 AM PST by Matchett-PI ("A Republican Larry Flynt should wave around $50,000 for proof of sexual harassment at Politico" -RL)
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"...The Buddha thought he had hit upon the solution by suggesting that attachment to our desires was the central problem of human existence. Desires come and go, but if we just stop identifying with them, then we can be liberated from them. While I studied a fair amount of Buddhism in my earlier years, I ultimately rejected it as fundamentally inadequate and incompatible with our own wisdom traditions in the West.

Yes, the West has problems, but Buddhist nonattachment is not the answer. Rather, the answer lay in a recovery of our own spiritual roots, which easily transcend and include the insights of Buddhism. Or, perhaps we can say that there are certain insights of Buddhism that can help illuminate certain ideas that are present but underemphasized in our own tradition. But Christianity is obviously fundamentally complete and needs no other revelation to complete it. It is missing nothing. ...."

HERE

16 posted on 11/07/2011 1:55:53 AM PST by Matchett-PI ("A Republican Larry Flynt should wave around $50,000 for proof of sexual harassment at Politico" -RL)
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To: Love Wisdom Truth

Good then take up the cross and follow Jesus.


18 posted on 11/07/2011 2:10:35 AM PST by bmwcyle (Obama is a Communist, a Muslim, and an illegal alien)
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To: Love Wisdom Truth
"...a monist metaphysic, like Buddhism obliterates the value of the unique individual. ...."

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"...If providence subsists prior to fate, this must be analogous to what we were saying the other day about entropy being parasitic on order.

Obviously we could not speak of disorder in the absence of order. Therefore, no matter what physicists say about the priority of the second law of thermodynamics, it must nevertheless rest upon [the] Unwritten Law of Cosmic Order, or there couldn't be any laws to begin with.

It's just another way of saying that God exists prior to the world, not just in the horizontal past, but in the descent of each vertical moment. If there is any order, there is only One transcendent order. ..

It's as if physicists arbitrarily begin with the Constitution, when it is necessary to go back to the Declaration of Independence in order to understand the "ground" of the Constitution, i.e., our sacred rights and duties that can only have a supernatural origin. Otherwise, the Constitution rests in thin air and has no metaphysical foundation, otherwise known as the lefthound path to godlessness and judicial tyranny.

"People often think their love of truth or of freedom is natural to them, but in reality the natural person does not love either truth or freedom" (Bolton).

HERE

23 posted on 11/07/2011 2:37:10 AM PST by Matchett-PI ("A Republican Larry Flynt should wave around $50,000 for proof of sexual harassment at Politico" -RL)
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To: Love Wisdom Truth
"I am the Way, the Truth and the Life, and no man comes to the Father except by me." ~Jesus Christ

There. Done.

28 posted on 11/07/2011 4:21:59 AM PST by 50sDad (A Liberal prevents me from telling you anything here.)
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To: Love Wisdom Truth

“You won’t find much difference in Budism (sic) with that of Christianity.”

May I respectfully suggest that you ask God (sincerely) to reveal His Truth to you....and you might sign up for a course in English composition.


29 posted on 11/07/2011 4:31:12 AM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: Love Wisdom Truth

I think this never should have been posted. There is no value in it either defending it, criticizing it or chatting about it.


34 posted on 11/07/2011 5:02:24 AM PST by MontaniSemperLiberi (Moutaineers are Always Free)
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To: Love Wisdom Truth
I have a Buddhist friend. His beliefs and mine (an evangelical Christian) are nothing alike.
37 posted on 11/07/2011 5:22:37 AM PST by FourPeas ("Maladjusted and wigging out is no way to go through life, son." -hg)
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Here's an essay from one of the few professors at Boston College who's not an out and out heretic.

http://www.peterkreeft.com/topics-more/religions_buddhism.htm

It's easy to read, I think treats Buddhism fairly, and it explains the differences quite well.

p.s. Sorry - too lazy to look up html embedding.

38 posted on 11/07/2011 5:29:07 AM PST by old and tired
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To: Love Wisdom Truth
Interesting screen name.
sophist
1542, earlier sophister (c.1380), from L. sophista, sophistes, from Gk. sophistes, from sophizesthai "to become wise or learned," from sophos "wise, clever," of unknown origin. Gk. sophistes came to mean "one who gives intellectual instruction for pay," and, contrasted with "philosopher," it became a term of contempt. Ancient sophists were famous for their clever, specious arguments.
philosopher
O.E. philosophe, from L. philosophus, from Gk. philosophos "philosopher," lit. "lover of wisdom," from philos "loving" + sophos "wise, a sage."

"Pythagoras was the first who called himself philosophos, instead of sophos, 'wise man,' since this latter term was suggestive of immodesty." [Klein]

I'm interested in that etymology because IMHO journalists use their claim of "objectivity" in precisely the same way that the sophists of ancient Greece used their claims to wisdom.

On your topic, my understanding of Buddhism is that it is more a philosophy than a religion - in the sense that its adherents don't worship God, and in the sense that they don't believe in heaven or hell. They certainly don't preach Christ as "the way, the truth, and the life."

41 posted on 11/07/2011 6:11:18 AM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (DRAFT PALIN)
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To: Love Wisdom Truth

Wrong. I cannot save myself-only Jesus can do this through His payment for your sins before God (otherwise God sees our sin-and not Christ’s righteousness). For by Grace (unmerrited favor) you have been saved, and this not of yourselves that no man (person) may boast.

And there is only one way (standard) for righteouness: “Be you (Holy) as I (God) am Holy..” obviously God’s holiness (and justice) precludes us from ever earning His grace, or salvation.

“But God demonstrated His love for us in this, that while we were still yet sinners (and spurned Him), (He sent Jesus) to died for us”.

2. Our Problem...Separation From God

God created us in His own image so we can know Him personally and have a joy-filled life. He did not make us as robots to automatically love and obey Him, but gave us a will and a freedom of choice. Since the beginning of time, we have chosen to disobey God and go our own willful way. We still make this choice today. This results in separation from God and ends in misery.

The Bible says:

•All of us have sinned and fallen short of God’s holiness (Romans 3:23).
•The result of unforgiven sin is death. But God’s gift is eternal life given by Jesus Christ our Lord (Romans 6:23).
The Bible says that disobeying God results in being separated from Him.

Our attempts can never unite us with God. Through the ages, people have tried many ways to bridge this gap and reach God — without success.

The Bible says:

•Adam sinned, and that sin brought death into the world. Now everyone has sinned, and so everyone must die (Romans 5:12).
•You may think you are on the right road and still end up dead (Proverbs 14:12).
There is only one way to reach God.

3. God’s Remedy...The Cross

Jesus Christ is the only answer to this problem. He is the only One who can bring us back to God. He died on the Cross and rose from the grave, paying the penalty for our sin and bridging the gap between God and people.

The Bible says:

•There is only one God, and Christ Jesus is the only one who can bring us to God (1 Timothy 2:5).
•Christ died once for our sins. An innocent person died for those who are guilty. Christ did this to bring you to God
(1 Peter 3:18).
•But God showed how much He loved us by having Christ die for us, even though we were sinful (Romans 5:8).
God has provided the only way — we must make the choice.

4. Our Response...Give Ourselves to Christ

We must trust Jesus Christ to forgive our sins and determine to obey Him for the rest of our lives. That way we can know God and find peace again.

The Bible says:

•So you will be saved, if you honestly say, Jesus is Lord, and if you believe with all your heart that God raised Him from death. God will accept you and save you, if you truly believe this (Romans 10:9-10).
Is there any good reason why you cannot turn your life over to Jesus Christ right now?

How to give your life to Christ:

1. Admit you are a sinner and need forgiveness.

2. Believe that Jesus Christ died for you on the Cross and rose from the grave.

3. Through prayer, confess that Jesus Christ is the only way to God and commit to live for Him for the rest of your life.

Would you like to give your life over to Jesus Christ right now?
Yes, I would like to give my life to Jesus Christ

Ready to take the next step?

Jesus is the only One who can bring us back to God. The Bible says, “If you declare with your mouth, ‘Jesus is Lord,’ and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.” To give your life to Christ, pray the following prayer and accept Jesus as your Savior:

What to Pray

Dear Lord Jesus,

I know that I am a sinner and need Your forgiveness. I believe that You died on the cross for my sins and rose from the grave to give me life. I know You are the only way to God. So now I want to quit disobeying You and start living for You. Please forgive me, change my life and show me how to know You. In Jesus’ name. Amen.

http://www.cbn.com/stepstopeace/index.aspx


42 posted on 11/07/2011 7:25:18 AM PST by JSDude1 (December 18, 2010 the Day the radical homosexual left declared WAR on the US Military.)
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To: Love Wisdom Truth
Here is a fictional representation of a budist:


44 posted on 11/07/2011 7:50:22 AM PST by Disambiguator
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