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Luther & the Reformation
Ligonier Ministries ^ | 10/31/2011 | R.C. Sproul

Posted on 10/31/2011 1:04:53 PM PDT by RnMomof7

On October 31, 1517, Martin Luther tacked up 95 theses on the church door at Wittenberg. With this act, he hoped to provoke a discussion among the scholars about the abuses of the indulgences by the Roman Catholic Church. He was not trying to create a public furor by any means, but within a fortnight, these theses had spread through the country like wildfire. The last thing Luther had in mind was to start some kind of major controversy, but nevertheless major controversy did begin.

From the discussions at Wittenberg, the disputations began to accelerate and escalate. Copies of the theses reached Rome and critical meetings were scheduled with the young monk. In these debates, Luther was maneuvered into proclaiming publicly that he had questions about the infallibility of church councils and also that he thought that it was possible that the pope could err. In 1520 a papal encyclical was issued which condemned Martin Luther as a heretic. Luther burned the document in a public bonfire and his defiance before the church was now a matter of record.

In response, Martin Luther picked up his pen to challenge the entire penitential system of the Roman Catholic Church, which undermined in principle the free remission of sins that is ours in the gospel. By doing so, he was unswervingly advocating his commitment to sola fide, the doctrine of justification by faith alone.

In 1521, Luther was summoned to the Imperial Diet, an authoritative meeting that involved the princes of the church, called by the Emperor of the Holy Roman Empire to be held in the city of Worms in Germany. Luther was an outlaw. For him to appear at the Diet was to risk his very life; therefore, he was given safe conduct by the Emperor to attend. With a few friends, Luther traveled from Wittenberg to Worms. The eyewitnesses of that episode tell us that when Luther’s little covered wagon appeared around the corner of the bend, there were lookouts posted in the church tower at Worms. All the people were agog waiting for the arrival of this notorious person. When Luther’s caravan was sighted, people were throwing their hats in the air, blowing trumpets, and creating all the fanfare of the arrival of the hero. It was the 16th century answer to a ticker-tape parade.

Things, however, became very solemn in a hurry because the next day he appeared before the Diet. His books were stacked on a table in the room, and he was asked and ordered to recant of his writings. This surprised Luther because he thought he was going to have an opportunity to defend his writings; but the only question really of any importance that was asked of him was this: "Are these your writings?" And when he said yes, they said, "Are you ready to recant of them?"

Hollywood has their version of Luther standing there boldly with his fist in the air saying, "Here I stand!" and so on. But instead he dropped his chin on his chest and muttered something that nobody could understand, so they asked him to speak up. "What did you say?" He said, "May I have 24 hours to think about it." And so Luther was granted a reprieve of 24 hours to return to his room to contemplate the seriousness of this occasion.

The prayer that Luther wrote in that ensuing 24-hour period was one of the most moving prayers I have ever read in my life. In that prayer, Luther cried out for God in his sense of total loneliness fearing that God had abandoned him, and proclaimed, "O Lord, I am Thine, and the cause is Thine, give me the courage to stand."

And on the morrow, Luther was called once again back to the court and was told to reply to the question. He said to the Diet, "Unless I am convinced by sacred scripture or by evident reason, I cannot recant, for my conscience is held captive by the Word of God, and to act against conscience is neither right nor safe. Here I stand. I can do no other. God help me." And with that there was an instant uproar.

The Emperor himself later indicated his regret that he even gave Luther a safe conduct, and immediately put a new price on his head. As Luther was leaving the city, his friends staged a kidnapping to protect him and took him away in a fast horse through the forest. They hid him for a year in Wartburg at the castle disguised as a knight. During that year, Luther undertook the task of translating the Bible from the biblical languages into German. And that perhaps was his most important legacy of that time - that he made the Bible available to the common people. And with that the Reformation was born.

—R.C. Sproul


TOPICS: Apologetics; Ecumenism; History; Theology
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To: RnMomof7

I have a Clementine Vulgate and a Douay Rheims Challoner revision.

My library, alas, is far more sparse than it used to be. I left my books behind two years ago, and kept only those which were necessary.


21 posted on 10/31/2011 2:39:22 PM PDT by BenKenobi (Honkeys for Herman! 10 percent is enough for God; 9 percent is enough for government)
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To: RnMomof7

Did he join voluntarily?


22 posted on 10/31/2011 2:40:45 PM PDT by BenKenobi (Honkeys for Herman! 10 percent is enough for God; 9 percent is enough for government)
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To: RnMomof7

I listen to the book “The Reformation” that describes the mind of Martin Luther and the thoughts and actions of those that followed.

At one time Luther went into seclusion and became severely constipated. He was Quoted as saying “My arse is broke”


23 posted on 10/31/2011 2:51:39 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 ..... Crucifixion is coming)
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To: BenKenobi
revision.

Key word

24 posted on 10/31/2011 2:54:29 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7

http://molcat1.bl.uk/TreasuresImages/Gutenberg/max/kl2/251.jpg

Look at it for yourself. Top of the page.

The Gutenberg Bible, (which is not the one that Luther used), and is older than Erasmus’s revision, does not say sola fide. It says exactly the same thing as the Clementine vulgate.

So yes, the revision did not change this crucial passage. :)

Now I have to go see if I can find a scan of an erasmus bible so I can show you exactly what Luther would have read.


25 posted on 10/31/2011 3:10:54 PM PDT by BenKenobi (Honkeys for Herman! 10 percent is enough for God; 9 percent is enough for government)
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To: RnMomof7

haha, based on what you know of the Catholic Faith, you ought to immediately contact that Catholic school and get your parent’s tuition money back. they had to be the worse nuns ever, you are entitled to a full refund ( that is if you ever did really attend Catholic schools, based on the statements that are posted, anyone who know anything about what the Church REALLY teaches have every right to wonder if you are being truthful )


26 posted on 10/31/2011 3:44:16 PM PDT by one Lord one faith one baptism
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To: RnMomof7
Catholic translations prior to Luther spoke of faith alone at Romans 3:28.

The original Greek did not have monos, the word for "alone" in that verse.

27 posted on 10/31/2011 3:53:43 PM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: Hoodat

Reading Luther led me to leave Lutheranism.


28 posted on 10/31/2011 4:38:10 PM PDT by rzman21
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To: rzman21

Here’s a great quote from Luther for my Evangelical friends from his Small Catechism.

V. Confession

How Christians should be taught to confess.

What is Confession?*

Confession embraces two parts: the one is, that we confess our sins; the other, that we receive absolution, or forgiveness, from the confessor, as from God Himself, and in no wise doubt, but firmly believe, that our sins are thereby forgiven before God in heaven.

What sins should we confess?

Before God we should plead guilty of all sins, even of those which we do not know, as we do in the Lord’s Prayer. But before the confessor we should confess those sins alone which we know and feel in our hearts.

Which are these?

Here consider your station according to the Ten Commandments, whether you are a father, mother, son, daughter, master, mistress, a man-servant or maid-servant; whether you have been disobedient, unfaithful, slothful; whether you have grieved any one by words or deeds; whether you have stolen, neglected, or wasted aught, or done other injury.

Pray, Propose to Me a Brief Form of Confession.

Answer.

You should speak to the confessor thus: Reverend and dear sir, I beseech you to hear my confession, and to pronounce forgiveness to me for God’s sake.

Proceed!

I, a poor sinner, confess myself before God guilty of all sins; especially I confess before you that I am a man-servant, a maidservant, etc. But, alas, I serve my master unfaithfully; for in this and in that I have not done what they commanded me; I have provoked them, and caused them to curse, have been negligent [in many things] and permitted damage to be done; have also been immodest in words and deeds, have quarreled with my equals, have grumbled and sworn at my mistress, etc. For all this I am sorry, and pray for grace; I want to do better.

A master or mistress may say thus:

In particular I confess before you that I have not faithfully trained my children, domestics, and wife [family] for God’s glory. I have cursed, set a bad example by rude words and deeds, have done my neighbor harm and spoken evil of him, have overcharged and given false ware and short measure.

And whatever else he has done against God’s command and his station, etc.

But if any one does not find himself burdened with such or greater sins, he should not trouble himself or search for or invent other sins, and thereby make confession a torture, but mention one or two that he knows. Thus: In particular I confess that I once cursed; again, I once used improper words, I have once neglected this or that, etc. Let this suffice.

But if you know of none at all (which, however is scarcely possible), then mention none in particular, but receive the forgiveness upon your general confession which you make before God to the confessor.

Then shall the confessor say:

God be merciful to thee and strengthen thy faith! Amen.

Furthermore:

Dost thou believe that my forgiveness is God’s forgiveness?

Answer.

Yes, dear sir.

Then let him say:

As thou believest, so be it done unto thee. And by the command of our Lord Jesus Christ I forgive thee thy sins, in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost. Amen. Depart in peace.

But those who have great burdens upon their consciences, or are distressed and tempted, the confessor will know how to comfort and to encourage to faith with more passages of Scripture. This is to be merely a general form of confession for the unlearned.

* These questions may not have been composed by Luther himself but reflect his teachings and were included in editions of the Small Catechism during his lifetime.

From Luther’s Smalcald Articles:
Part III, Article VIII. Of Confession.

1] Since Absolution or the Power of the Keys is also an aid and consolation against sin and a bad conscience, ordained by Christ [Himself] in the Gospel, Confession or Absolution ought by no means to be abolished in the Church, especially on account of [tender and] timid consciences and on account of the untrained [and capricious] young people, in order that they may be examined, and instructed in the Christian doctrine.

2] But the enumeration of sins ought to be free to every one, as to what he wishes to enumerate or not to enumerate. For as long as we are in the flesh, we shall not lie when we say: “I am a poor man [I acknowledge that I am a miserable sinner], full of sin.” Rom. 7:23: I see another law in my members, etc. For since private absolution originates in the Office of the Keys, it should not be despised [neglected], but greatly and highly esteemed [of the greatest worth], as [also] all other offices of the Christian Church.

3] And in those things which concern the spoken, outward Word, we must firmly hold that God grants His Spirit or grace to no one, except through or with the preceding outward Word, in order that we may [thus] be protected against the enthusiasts, i.e., spirits who boast that they have the Spirit without and before the Word, and accordingly judge Scripture or the spoken Word, and explain and stretch it at their pleasure, as Muenzer did, and many still do at the present day, who wish to be acute judges between the Spirit and the letter, and yet know not what they say or declare. 4] For [indeed] the Papacy also is nothing but sheer enthusiasm, by which the Pope boasts that all rights exist in the shrine of his heart, and whatever he decides and commands with [in] his church is spirit and right, even though it is above and contrary to Scripture and the spoken Word.

5] All this is the old devil and old serpent, who also converted Adam and Eve into enthusiasts, and led them from the outward Word of God to spiritualizing and self-conceit, and nevertheless he accomplished this through other outward words. 6] Just as also our enthusiasts [at the present day] condemn the outward Word, and nevertheless they themselves are not silent, but they fill the world with their pratings and writings, as though, indeed, the Spirit could not come through the writings and spoken word of the apostles, but [first] through their writings and words he must come. Why [then] do not they also omit their own sermons and writings, until the Spirit Himself come to men, without their writings and before them, as they boast that He has come into them without the preaching of the Scriptures? But of these matters there is not time now to dispute at greater length; we have elsewhere sufficiently urged this subject.

7] For even those who believe before Baptism, or become believing in Baptism, believe through the preceding outward Word, as the adults, who have come to reason, must first have heard: He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved, even though they are at first unbelieving, and receive the Spirit and Baptism ten years afterwards. 8] Cornelius, Acts 10:1ff , had heard long before among the Jews of the coming Messiah, through whom he was righteous before God, and in such faith his prayers and alms were acceptable to God (as Luke calls him devout and God-fearing), and without such preceding Word and hearing could not have believed or been righteous. But St. Peter had to reveal to him that the Messiah (in whom, as one that was to come, he had hitherto believed) now had come, lest his faith concerning the coming Messiah hold him captive among the hardened and unbelieving Jews, but know that he was now to be saved by the present Messiah, and must not, with the [rabble of the] Jews deny nor persecute Him.

9] In a word, enthusiasm inheres in Adam and his children from the beginning [from the first fall] to the end of the world, [its poison] having been implanted and infused into them by the old dragon, and is the origin, power [life], and strength of all heresy, especially of that of the Papacy and Mahomet. 10] Therefore we ought and must constantly maintain this point, that God does not wish to deal with us otherwise than through the spoken Word and the Sacraments. 11] It is the devil himself whatsoever is extolled as Spirit without the Word and Sacraments. For God wished to appear even to Moses through the burning bush and spoken Word; and no prophet neither Elijah nor Elisha, received the Spirit without the Ten Commandments [or spoken Word]. 12] Neither was John the Baptist conceived without the preceding word of Gabriel, nor did he leap in his mother’s womb without the voice of Mary. 13] And Peter says, 2 Pet. 1:21: The prophecy came not by the will of man; but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost. Without the outward Word, however, they were not holy, much less would the Holy Ghost have moved them to speak when they still were unholy [or profane]; for they were holy, says he, since the Holy Ghost spake through them.

http://jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Religions/Lutherans/truth_about_martin_luther.htm


29 posted on 10/31/2011 4:49:11 PM PDT by rzman21
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To: RnMomof7

Just because you had a junior high Catholic theological education does not mean you actually understand Catholic theology.


30 posted on 10/31/2011 4:50:33 PM PDT by rzman21
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To: NakedRampage
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31 posted on 10/31/2011 4:51:10 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: NakedRampage
Bible


"We are compelled to concede to the Papists
that they have the Word of God,
that we received it from them,
and that without them
we should have no knowledge of it at all."

~ Martin Luther




32 posted on 10/31/2011 4:52:06 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: RnMomof7

Thank you for posting. Luther was such a brave yet human person.


33 posted on 10/31/2011 4:56:50 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: plain talk

one can’t help but wonder what Luther would think of the 30,000 different sects, all teaching and sowing confusion. we went from one pope to millions of popes.


34 posted on 10/31/2011 5:29:18 PM PDT by one Lord one faith one baptism
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To: plain talk

Try divisive. Luther could have been a saint had he fought to reform the Catholic Church instead of founding a new religion.

There wasn’t a Protestant Reformation. There was a Protestant Revolution that had more in common with the French Revolution than the Catholic Reformation that took place 50 years later.


35 posted on 10/31/2011 5:48:03 PM PDT by rzman21
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To: rzman21

One cannot attack Luther for not reforming a corrupt church that sold indulgences. Luther was just lucky he survived. You have to blame the Catholic Church itself. I also fail to see how that constituted a “french revolution”. People were finally able to read a Bible (thanks to Luther’s translation) and simply escape a corrupt church.

The Catholic Church is a great institution today but in those days it was powerful and evil. So do you admit that the Catholic Church was corrupt in selling indulgences?


36 posted on 10/31/2011 6:50:55 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: plain talk
" ... reforming a corrupt church that sold indulgences."

LOL

"Luther was just lucky he survived."

ROTFLMAO.....

"People were finally able to read a Bible (thanks to Luther’s translation) and simply escape a corrupt church."

Now, that's just sad, and you're embarrassing yourself. There were several German translations available before Luther was even born. As I recall them, the Augsburg, Wentzel, Strasbourg, and several others. In fact there was a proto-German or Goth translation around 350-400 AD. The printing press made it possible for people to "finally read" the Bible because more people could afford one, and in spite of what the propaganda you bought into might have told you, Luther did not invent the printing press. In addition, the very low percentage of people who could read were taught Latin anyway, it was the universal academic language for all academic disciplines at the time.

So, I can tell you enjoy your fantasy but if you really must have fantasy in your life to be happy it would be far less dangerous for your immortal soul for you to stick to fantasies about dragons and maidens and stick to the Truth when it comes to Christ and Christianity.

37 posted on 10/31/2011 7:33:36 PM PDT by Rashputin (Obama stark, raving, mad, and even his security people know it.)
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To: plain talk

That’s a myth. I don’t understand why Protestants continue to believe them. Maybe they’re afraid of becoming Catholic like I did.

Most people couldn’t even read. Luther’s translation of the Bible was so corrupted that the Protestant Church in Germany later discarded it because it wasn’t even a real translation.

Luther added the word “alein” in Romans when it’s not present in the Greek. Not to mention, he dropped James, Jude, Hebrews, and Revelation from his translation and called them “apocryphal.”

Do you think these books are apocryphal? Luther thought they were.

The selling of indulgences is a canard, considering it was banned by the Council of Trent.

The Church needed genuine reform, not a revolution.

We don’t have the Church alone to blame for the Protestant Revolution because a lot of kings and princes saw Protestantism as a convenient way to get out of paying taxes.

Protestantism amounted to the rejection of the Church that Christ founded and the founding of a new religion outside of the Body of Christ, which is the Catholic Church.

The notion of private interpretation of scripture paved the way for the Enlightenment and the decline of Christianity in Western civilization.

CS Lewis’s friend Hilaire Belloc observes in his book Great Heresies (http://www.ewtn.com/library/doctrine/heresy.htm):
It is of first importance to appreciate this historical truth. Only a few of the most bitter or ardent Reformers set out to destroy Catholicism as a separate existing thing of which they were conscious and which they hated. Still less did most of the Reformers set out to erect some other united counter-religion.

They set out (as they themselves put it and as it had been put for a century and a half before the great upheaval) “to reform.” They professed to purify the Church and restore it to its original virtues of directness and simplicity. They professed in their various ways (and the various groups of them differed in almost everything except their increasing reaction against unity) to get rid of excrescences, superstitions and historical falsehoods-of which, heaven knows, there was a multitude for them to attack.

On the other side, during this period of the Reformation, the defence of orthodoxy was occupied, not so much in destroying a specific thing (such as the spirit of Protestantism is today), as in restoring unity. For at least sixty years, even on to eighty years-more than the full active lifetime of even a long-lived man-the two forces at work, Reform and Conservatism, were of this nature: interlocked, each affecting the other and each hoping to become universal at last.
http://www.ewtn.com/library/doctrine/heresy.htm


38 posted on 10/31/2011 7:42:13 PM PDT by rzman21
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To: rzman21

so ... do you defend the selling of indulgences back then?


39 posted on 10/31/2011 7:54:52 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: Rashputin
" ... reforming a corrupt church that sold indulgences." LOL

You think that is funny? Are you also defending the selling of indulgences?

40 posted on 10/31/2011 7:56:40 PM PDT by plain talk
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