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Posted on 10/27/2011 4:05:56 PM PDT by rzman21
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To: RnMomof7
if some non-Christian cults like yours believes in a caste-system, that's the cult's problems
Now, some folks are moving away from your cult and going for RCIA classes -- for conversion/return to Christianity
It's sad that your cult believes in a caste-system, covenant theology and all of that, but you can still find Christ's love.
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posted on
10/31/2011 9:13:26 AM PDT
by
Cronos
(http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2787101/posts?page=58#58)
To: RnMomof7
"Now your favorite catechism..." To present the Baltimore Catechism as something other than a primer aimed at introducing children to Catholic doctrine and terminology and as something definitive, particularly in light of our many conversations on this subject, is pathetically and willfully disingenuous. Even funnier is the fact that you got the meaning wrong. You should be embarrassed that you still failed to even comprehend the basics that the Baltimore Catechism taught. LOL. The Eucharist is the One Sacrifice made present. It is not a re-sacrifice or a reenactment.
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posted on
10/31/2011 9:17:55 AM PDT
by
Natural Law
(Transubstantiation - Change we can believe in.)
To: RnMomof7
you mean Reformatting day.
Isn't it time for your cult to split again over whether to eat muffins before or after the scones?
You have the first generation namely Lutheran sticking close to orthodoxy with the Lutherans holding to the True Presence in the Eucharist, to Baptismal regeneration etc.
- Generation 2: Then you have the Calvin-Zwingli crowd rejecting these two as well as other aspects of orthodoxy
- Generation 3: Knox and the Anglican compromise
- Generation 4: The Unitarians like Michael Servetus who went from being Catholic to Lutheran to Reformed to denying the Trinity.
- Generation 5: the Baptists who now rejected infant baptism (quite unlike their namesakes the Anabaptists (now called Mennonites)) and said that there was a great Apostasy in the first centuries of Christendom (Gen 1-3 took later centuries as the dates of their "Great Apostasy")
- Generation 6: the Restorationists at the Great Awakening, like
- The Millerites, to become the Seventh DayAdventists -- with Ellen G White saying that Jesus was the same as the Archangel Michael and that Satan woudl take the sins of the world at the end of time and other beauties. They came up with their own version of the Bible
- The Unitarians and Universalists -- reborn and reinvigorated by this reformatting, they tossed out the Trinity and eventually they end up as they are today where they believe in nothing
- Jehovah's Witnesses: they tossed out the Trinity too and came up with their own version of the Bible
- The Mormons: they took the Trinity and made it three gods. They too came up with their own version of the Bible
- Generation 7: the Orthodo Presbyterian C, the FourSquare Ahoy! Pentecostalists, the Raelians, the Branch Davidians, the Creflo-Dollar crowd, the Jesse Dupantis (I went to visit Jesus in heaven and comforted Him) etc -- one step further beyond generation 6
- Generation 8: ... any one of the thousands of new sects formed since 1990
How can you say that there is entropy -- there's a lot of change happening. Next week the North-Western Evangelical Bible-Reformed branch of PresbyMennonCongregationalutherAdventipentecostathism is due to split into the Central-North-Western Evangelical Bible-Reformed branch of PresbyMennonCongregationalutherAdventipentecostathism and the Central-Southern-North-Western Evangelical Bible-Reformed branch of PresbyMennonCongregationalutherAdventipentecostathism, but this is good driven as there as a dispute in the Congregation on matters of doctrine, Bobama thought that he should be Preach-pasto-Prophet Elder on Mondays, Tuesdays, Wednesdays and alternate Sundays while Michelle thought that she should be that -- as she had yoga-pilates-kickboxing class on Thursdays.
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posted on
10/31/2011 9:19:18 AM PDT
by
Cronos
(http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2787101/posts?page=58#58)
To: Cronos
"I heard that the reason for some of our friends moving away was to go for RCIA classes -- for conversion to Catholicism.In my RCIA classes there are quite a few former Presbyterians and Protestants all of whom often comment that they were taught lies about the Church. This is a common theme recounted by RCIA team members from parishes across our diocese and I am sure from across the country.
Have faith that Calvinism is not the "Gates" of Hell, it only looks and acts like it.
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posted on
10/31/2011 9:22:03 AM PDT
by
Natural Law
(Transubstantiation - Change we can believe in.)
To: one Lord one faith one baptism; Iscool; RnMomof7
What is incredible is so called Calvinist groups like Rnmom's will support groups like Iscool's which take the arian heresy to its ultimate extent.
These groups have nothing in common but their despise of Christ's Church. Incredible, eh?
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posted on
10/31/2011 9:22:45 AM PDT
by
Cronos
(http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2787101/posts?page=58#58)
To: Natural Law; RnMomof7
Have faith that Calvinism is not the "Gates" of Hell, it only looks and acts like it.There's hope for many yet! Don't worry, Rn, Christ will call you back.
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posted on
10/31/2011 9:30:39 AM PDT
by
Cronos
(http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2787101/posts?page=58#58)
To: Cronos; RnMomof7
What is incredible is so called Calvinist groups like Rnmom's will support groups like Iscool's which take the arian heresy to its ultimate extent. I don't know what your Arian heresy is but I suspect it has a great deal to do with their refusal to bow down to your religion and your pope...
And I could probably say with confidence that they considered your religion to be just as heretical as you claim they are...
These groups have nothing in common but their despise of Christ's Church. Incredible, eh?
What IS true is that what we have in common with each other, we don't have in common with your religion...
And one of those things is that we know our destination in heaven is sure and secure...
If we never do a good work from here on out, we've still got a place prepared in heaven for us...
But that won't be the case because God has and will continue to do good works thru us...
He's even got us preaching to you in hopes that you might chose to get saved and THEN become a member of the real body of Christ...
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posted on
10/31/2011 10:12:00 AM PDT
by
Iscool
(You mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailerpark...)
To: Iscool
Go away. We Christians (Lutherans, Catholics, Presbyterians, Baptists, Anglicans, Pentecostals, Methodists, Orthodox etc) are talking about Christian matters We don't comment if your non-Christian cult wants to argue with others about whichever Hadiths or suras it likes.
I'd rather discuss with Christians than with the likes of your group
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posted on
10/31/2011 10:17:48 AM PDT
by
Cronos
(http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2787101/posts?page=58#58)
To: Iscool
“of the real body of Christ..” —> yes, yes we know that your group rejects that Christ died and was resurrected.
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posted on
10/31/2011 10:18:56 AM PDT
by
Cronos
(http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2787101/posts?page=58#58)
To: rzman21
By Evangelical standards, the interpreter of Scripture is not the reader, but God the Holy Spirit.
Any man who attempts to interpret Scripture independent of God the Holy Spirit, fails to remain in fellowship with God through faith in Christ.
Worse than this, are man-made institutions attempting to counterfeit what God provides, then insist others follow them based upon an authority they demand they have been given, but still fail to remain in faith with Christ.
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posted on
10/31/2011 10:18:56 AM PDT
by
Cvengr
(Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
To: Iscool; RnMomof7; Natural Law; one Lord one faith one baptism
in hopes that you might chose to get savedWow -- free will? RnMomof7 -- don't Calvinist's say you can't choose to get saved?
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posted on
10/31/2011 10:20:23 AM PDT
by
Cronos
(http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2787101/posts?page=58#58)
To: Iscool; RnMomof7; Natural Law; one Lord one faith one baptism
Let's delve back even to more basics, iscool -- whatever else RnMomof7 may argue about, her group believes in the Trinity, One God, Father Son and Holy Spirit -- of One being
Her group doesn't believe in a Modal god....
your religious group with its various suras etc, on the other hand...
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posted on
10/31/2011 10:24:09 AM PDT
by
Cronos
(http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2787101/posts?page=58#58)
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To: Natural Law
The Eucharist is the One Sacrifice made present. It is not a re-sacrifice or a reenactment. That's a real nonsensical statement...And what's more nonsensical is that you guys spew it out and expect people to believe it...
So how would you have Tiny Tim singing Tip Toe Thru The Tulips made present at every Catholic church on the planet at the same time???
It's not only ridiculous to have an incident in the past made present, Jesus never suggested or hinted that any one of you Catholics or he himself would perform that stunt...
In fact, he warned against those who would claim any such nonsense...
Mar 13:21 And then if any man shall say to you, Lo, here is Christ; or, lo, he is there; believe him not:
Mar 13:22 For false Christs and false prophets shall rise, and shall shew signs and wonders, to seduce, if it were possible, even the elect.
Sounds like you guys have been seduced...
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posted on
10/31/2011 10:24:56 AM PDT
by
Iscool
(You mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailerpark...)
To: Cronos
"I don't know what your Arian heresy is but..." but if its good and the Church don't like it, I'm it. (to paraphrase Mohammed Ali)
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posted on
10/31/2011 10:26:42 AM PDT
by
Natural Law
(Transubstantiation - Change we can believe in.)
To: Cronos
Go away. We Christians Awww, poor baby...
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posted on
10/31/2011 10:28:49 AM PDT
by
Iscool
(You mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailerpark...)
To: Iscool
Cronos:
We ChristiansIscool: Awww, poor baby...
Ah, don't pity us Christians (Lutherans, CAtholics, Baptists, Pentecostals, Presbyterians, Methodists etc) will keep believing in Christ as our Lord, God and Savior -- if your group wishes to continue "pitying" Christians, it can go ahead.
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posted on
10/31/2011 10:32:35 AM PDT
by
Cronos
(http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2787101/posts?page=58#58)
To: Iscool; Natural Law
iscool:
Jesus never suggested or hinted yes, yes we know that your group thinks Jesus never said He was God.
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posted on
10/31/2011 10:34:01 AM PDT
by
Cronos
(http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2787101/posts?page=58#58)
To: Cronos; RnMomof7
Wow -- free will? RnMomof7 -- don't Calvinist's say you can't choose to get saved? HaHaHaHa....Whether God picked us or not, we are still saved by grace thru faith, without any Catholic works, lest one of us should boast...
You ought to stop worrying about free will and concentrate on what you are counting on to get you to heaven...You got wet??? You ate the cracker??? You're working up a sweat trying to do works good enough to get you there???
Worrying about whether you pick God or God picked you is the least of your worries...
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posted on
10/31/2011 10:35:32 AM PDT
by
Iscool
(You mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailerpark...)
To: Cronos
your religious group with its various suras etc, on the other hand... You post a lot of muzlim terminology...Are you one of them Iazlamaniacs who venerate Mary???
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posted on
10/31/2011 10:37:25 AM PDT
by
Iscool
(You mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailerpark...)
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