Posted on 10/26/2011 8:31:31 PM PDT by rzman21
Well done, especially considering the childish contempt you earlier experienced.
My point all along has been that Evangelicals ought to look at the plank in their own eyes when it comes to where their beliefs square with those of the early Christians before they judge the Mormons.
I was raised in a Protestant home, but I left when I started seeing that early Christian belief and Protestant teaching were worlds apart.
Please explain.
Read the Church fathers and find out for yourself. http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/
“To know history is to cease to be a Protestant” - Bl. John Henry Cardinal Newman
Virtually every single belief Evangelicals attack Catholics for believing was taught by the early Christians.
The thread discusses beliefs of non-Catholics and therefore does not qualify for the “Catholic Caucus” label. It will be removed.
Romney. Not a baptized Christian. If sacramental grace is not a necessity of the Presidency, then it might not be a problem. But add in the fact that Mitt and his inner circle are corrupt ...
I have serious objections to this particular analysis. It is unfortunate.
Yes, there are many things that Mormons believe that Catholics also believe. However, the differences are wide and broad.
As much as I dislike the Anglicans, my Anglican baptism is accepted by the Catholic church. They would not do so for the Mormons.
That alone should be the first sign that the gulf is broader between Catholicism and Mormonism than between any of the Protestants.
I agree. However, it is true that evangelicalism has become less and less orthodox during the past forty years. I would, however empty many South Baptists who are more dogmatic in their teachings than many of them realize. They cling to an interpretation of Scripture that is closer to that of the chief Reformers than do many of the other mainstream denominations.
I’m of the opinion (and my fellow Freepers are free to disagree with me on this) that a man’s faith is his own business. Protestants, Catholics, Mormons, Adventists, Christian Scientists, etc. etc, whatever you believe, as long as you’re a person of character, who displays integrity in his or her affairs and has the courage of his convictions, then I care little for how you choose to worship your Creator.
I don’t care that Mitt Romney is a Mormon. I know many Mormons, indeed I have Mormon friends, and they are good, decent people with whom I have no quarrel. While I may think that some of their beliefs are misguided, or even somewhat silly, I respect their freedom to worship as they choose and if their understanding of God is different than my own, well, so be it.
What I do care about is that Mitt Romney is a phony, a man who I believe wants to be the President so badly that he would say whatever it took to be elected to that office. I have no idea what he believes in, nor do I care much, because his positions shift according to the political winds and when he speaks, I don’t hear conviction, rather I hear desire for power. He would be an absolute disaster as a candidate and I truly think the Republican establishment is making a terrible mistake if they back him for high office.
I won’t vote for a man I don’t respect, and I don’t respect Mitt Romney. Period, point blank. It has nothing to do with him being a Mormon, it has everything to do with his insincerity and naked lust for power.
Religion matters...much like race
JFK did not get 80% of the Catholic vote in 1960 for having good hair
That's a very good point -- I didn't even need to think about what religion Ro-ro believes in to reject him, there's enough rot in his political beliefs.
Exactly. If Mitt Romney were a constitutional conservative, I wouldn’t care if he burned incense to the Flying Purple People Eater. There are worse qualities in a politician than being a total nut - and being a completely predictable afficionado of big government is one of them.
I don’t know what Rick Perry’s or Herman Cain’s precise religious beliefs are. I’m interested in their potential to destroy the federal government behemoth. I know Rick Santorum is a faithful Catholic with whom I likely have very few religious differences - but I also know he’s a government-snuggler.
Oh, I like that. I makes me think of an adult wearing PJs with foots in them sitting in the lap of huge stuffed bear with a fur covered face like Joseph Stalin complete with a pipe in its' mouth and a big red star on its' cap.
Too bad there isn’t an “anti-Christian” label available for this thread.
I agree.
Busy little beaver...
at least one of the threads started out as a “Catholic Caucus” of all things...
Whats that about ???
This stinks to high heaven of "retread"...the only arrow in their quiver is to follow their early leaders and denigrate Christianity and Christians.
A very poor attempt at moral equivalency n00b. As many have already pointed out, the variation between the beliefs of Evangelicals and the early Christians is miniscule when compared to the vast gulf that exists between mormonism and the early church.
Most of the NT was written in response to false teachers who called themselves "christian" and exposed those false doctrines they tried to bring into the early church. Are you going to tell us that you believe that the Apostle Paul had a plank in his eye when he suggested to the Galatians that the false teachers there should essentially castrate themselves?
I would point out that the context of the 'plank' reference by Jesus, it was against hypocritical judging of a persons motivations and heart attitudes. It has nothing to do with the teachings of their religion.
This same Jesus commands us to judge righteous judgement. Infact, just a few verses after the 'plank' Jesus tell us to beware “dogs” and “pigs” so that we don’t waste time giving them knowledge of God. The only way you can detect a metaphorical “dog” or “pig” is to judge other people’s actions!
BTW, in your statement, you are guilty of exactly what you are accusing others of. What gives you the right to judge?
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