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Why a candidate’s faith matters
THe Washington Post ^ | October 18, 2011 | Robert Jeffress

Posted on 10/19/2011 5:21:41 PM PDT by wmfights

Hearing Mitt Romney’s surrogate Bill Bennett refer to me as a bigot and Jon Huntsman call me a “moron” last week after my controversial comments on Mormonism, amid calls for civility and tolerance in public discourse, reminds me of the exclamation: “We will not tolerate intolerance!” But beyond the personal insults, I am concerned that these men are attempting to prematurely marginalize religion as a relevant topic in elections. Utilizing such incendiary rhetoric against those of us who dare bring up a candidate’s spiritual beliefs cuts off discussion about religion before it begins.

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TOPICS: Charismatic Christian; Evangelical Christian; General Discusssion; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: billbennett; christianity; faith; fbcdallas; inman; jeffress; jonhuntsman; lds; mittromney; mormon; mormonism; mormons; robertjeffress
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To: Buggman; P-Marlowe; wmfights; xzins; Torahman; Alamo-Girl; betty boop; altura
Deu 14:28-29

So are we to only give tithes to Hagar and her orphan ??

Normally we only admit refugees from war torn regions by LAW.

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
121 posted on 10/21/2011 11:32:03 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: UriÂ’el-2012

Roman Catholics who believe in Jesus are Christian just as much as Messianics who believe in Jesus.

Those who do not in ANY denomination are not Christian.

By “believe”, I mean the john 3:16 definition.

I also think MANY Roman Catholics are believers.


122 posted on 10/21/2011 11:32:30 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their VICTORY!)
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To: UriÂ’el-2012

I’m not getting your point on this one.


123 posted on 10/21/2011 11:36:25 AM PDT by Buggman (returnofbenjamin.wordpress.com - Baruch haBa b'Shem ADONAI!)
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To: Buggman
Read Deu 14:29 in the original text.

What is translated as foreigner
is Heh, gimel, rosh( Hagar)

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach

124 posted on 10/21/2011 11:47:56 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: xzins

Pray YHvH provide you with discernment.

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach

125 posted on 10/21/2011 11:50:25 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: UriÂ’el-2012

You have tried to avoid Cain’s words on abortion.

Are you pro-choice?


126 posted on 10/21/2011 11:53:12 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their VICTORY!)
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To: UriÂ’el-2012
Yes. Ha ("the") Ger ("foreigner"). What is your point?
127 posted on 10/21/2011 11:54:02 AM PDT by Buggman (returnofbenjamin.wordpress.com - Baruch haBa b'Shem ADONAI!)
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To: Buggman
וְהַגֵּר

And Hagar

http://www.chabad.org/library/bible_cdo/aid/9978

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
128 posted on 10/21/2011 11:58:29 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: UriÂ’el-2012

Yes, “the foreigner” is spelled just like the name Hagar. It’s an interesting pun, but you’re still not being clear about what point you’re deriving from this.


129 posted on 10/21/2011 12:01:16 PM PDT by Buggman (returnofbenjamin.wordpress.com - Baruch haBa b'Shem ADONAI!)
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To: Buggman
See 111

130 posted on 10/21/2011 12:02:32 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: xzins

Thank you. It is more than tiring to keep butting heads with that guy — he also thinks that all of Christianity was created by Constantine and that Jesus Christ is not God. This, mixed with his strange mumblings, makes you wonder....


131 posted on 10/21/2011 12:05:07 PM PDT by Cronos (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2787101/posts?page=58#58)
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To: rzman21

True. But as a Catholic I have no problem with supporting a really viable candidate like Cain. He shares my conservative views. Maybe he’ll take Santorum or Gingrich as a VP?


132 posted on 10/21/2011 12:06:50 PM PDT by Cronos (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2787101/posts?page=58#58)
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To: UriÂ’el-2012

I did. Are you seriously claiming that the Torah, rather than having the needs of the foreigner in mind, had in mind instead the needs of a woman 500 years dead?


133 posted on 10/21/2011 12:06:55 PM PDT by Buggman (returnofbenjamin.wordpress.com - Baruch haBa b'Shem ADONAI!)
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To: Buggman
If you use the principle of first use,
it would suggest Hagar was first used
for the exiled maid-servant who was party
to YHvH displeasure.

The expelled maid-servant and her orphan.
This the same use in Deu 14:29

Only later did it become used for foreigner.

But it retains the original meaning.

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach

134 posted on 10/21/2011 12:11:07 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: Cronos; xzins
and that Jesus Christ is not God.

You keep repeating falsehoods

Yah'shua is YHvH's Shekinah.

Yah'shua says there is only ONE YHvH.

Not two, or three or a pantheon
including a queen of heaven.

Seek YHvH in His WORD.

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
135 posted on 10/21/2011 12:19:32 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: UriÂ’el-2012
The principle of first use does not mean that you get to recombine words to make them fit with your preconceived notions--especially when the meaning of the root is so well known.

Now, I could see a midrashic discussion on the ger within the gates and the relationship of the Matriarch to Hager coming out of that little play-on-words. As a matter of fact, I can see some very interesting parallels already. But that doesn't change the plain-text meaning of the words.

In other words, you're grasping at straws.

Shalom

136 posted on 10/21/2011 12:19:44 PM PDT by Buggman (returnofbenjamin.wordpress.com - Baruch haBa b'Shem ADONAI!)
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To: Buggman
You seem not to accept the principle of first use.

Look for yourself : Gen 16:1

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach

137 posted on 10/21/2011 12:23:56 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: caww
.....”The Mormon Stock Index”.... tries to measure the stock market performance of companies run by Mormon executives. More than 50 companies have been part of the index in its two year history, including more than 30 companies on the index today. Companies are included..” as long as they have a Mormon executive on their management team,”.... and as long as the company’s public stock market capitalization exceeds $100 million.

No surprise there. Look for degrees in theology, or attendance at divinity schools in the info below.

Mormonism is all about the money.

Council on the Disposition of the Tithes

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Council on the Disposition of the Tithes (also known as the Council on the Disposition of Tithing) is a leadership body in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, composed of the First Presidency, the Presiding Bishopric, and Quorum of the Twelve Apostles. The Council determines how the tithing funds of the church will be spent. The Council oversees revenue, investments and expenditures valued at billions of dollars per year.

While the Church employs an independent auditing department which provides an annual report to the Church[1], it has not published full financial reports since 1959.

The Council was established by church founder Joseph Smith, Jr. on 8 July 1838.[2] As of April 2009, the members of the Council are:


138 posted on 10/21/2011 12:38:21 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Those who use the word "hate?" The articulate expression of an opinion with which they disagree.)
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To: UriÂ’el-2012
I accept the principle--which is a theological principle, not linguistic--just not the silly attempt to abuse it.

Shalom

139 posted on 10/21/2011 12:50:18 PM PDT by Buggman (returnofbenjamin.wordpress.com - Baruch haBa b'Shem ADONAI!)
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To: Buggman
Vowel points were not added until 600 CE.

I'm studying Hebrew with a Hebrew linguist
and we spent two hours on the word bereshit
forward, backwards and including every two
letter word within for mystical insights.

It will send chills down your spine as to
how tightly written is the WORD

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach

140 posted on 10/21/2011 1:02:48 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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