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It all comes down to faith regardless of what Testament you are in, except for that one annoying little verse (to some) in the NT: What then will it take???

Actually...it doesnt come down to faith. That is why the word faith only appears like 2 times in the KJV OT and the highest is 19 times in the NIV OT.

What do I mean? When the law was given at Sinai, it was a national revelation. It took no faith because millions heard the word of G-d.

The Torah states (Deuteronomy 4:9-13):

(Moses told the Israelites:) Only beware for yourself and greatly beware for your soul, lest you forget the things that your eyes have beheld. Do not remove this memory from your heart all the days of your life. Teach your children and your children's children about the day that you stood before the Lord your God at Chorev (Sinai)...

So you approached and stood at the foot of the mountain. The mountain was burning with a fire reaching the heart of heaven, with darkness, cloud, and mist. God spoke to you from the midst of the fire; you were hearing the sound of words, but you were not seeing a form, only a sound. He told you of His covenant, instructing you to keep the Ten Commandments, and He inscribed them on two stone tablets.

It took no faith...they saw it with their own eyes. They heard it with their own ears.

So it will be when messiah comes. When you look at what the messiah must do...must accomplish...they are clear and exclusive to one person. The ingathering of the exiles...the rebuilding of the temple...the universal knowlege of G-d...World peace...Restoration of the Priesthood and the Davidic line...These are exclusive events that when accomplished by messiah will be known and witnessed live on tv throughout the world. It will take no faith. And since it will be brought about by a messiah in one human lifetime, we will know he is the one. AND most importantly, NO ONE can be "crowned" King Messiah unless he HAS...past tense..accomplished ALL these tasks...No partial credit! Otherwise, we could be looking at another false messiah.

When you look at the 300 or so prophetic claims that Jesus "fulfilled" they are usually verses about David, not messinaic at all or taken completely out of context. Others could have been fulfilled by anyone. Riding a Donkey into Jerusalem...anyone could do that....Bringing world peace? That is exclusive. Rebuilding the Temple? That is exclusive..

Jesus did not fulfill any exclusive messianic duties...hence the need for the second coming. There are actually others like Bar Kochba that came closer than Jesus in fulfilling messianic prophecies....maybe Bar Kochba will return and finish the job! No, It is not like that. They will be done the first time. One human lifetime and then the messiah will die a normal human death. Not a divine god-man hybrid.

In response to your posts to me I say thankyou...

There are some of us on FR who agree with what you posted...That is except that Paul made a mistake, or was wrong...

We too look forward to the time that the Messiah will rule Israel in the Kingdom that was promised and guaranteed thru out the Old Testament...And some of us agree that salvation during that period will be based on good works, but we see that it's a combination of works and faith...

We see in the New Testament and believe that Jesus came to deliver the Jews...And had the Jewish nation not rejected Jesus, Jesus would have fulfilled all those things that you guys were looking for...

And as I am sure you have read, God chose to make you guys jealous and invited the Gentiles into His family...And when God is done with the Gentiles, he will again turn to his chosen people the Jews...And then, everything you have been looking for will be realized...

As far as faith is concerned, I agree that millions heard the voice of God...Faith was not required...But after that generation passed, it was the record of that witness, not the witness itself that brought people to God...It was faith...