There are some of us on FR who agree with what you posted...That is except that Paul made a mistake, or was wrong...
We too look forward to the time that the Messiah will rule Israel in the Kingdom that was promised and guaranteed thru out the Old Testament...And some of us agree that salvation during that period will be based on good works, but we see that it's a combination of works and faith...
We see in the New Testament and believe that Jesus came to deliver the Jews...And had the Jewish nation not rejected Jesus, Jesus would have fulfilled all those things that you guys were looking for...
And as I am sure you have read, God chose to make you guys jealous and invited the Gentiles into His family...And when God is done with the Gentiles, he will again turn to his chosen people the Jews...And then, everything you have been looking for will be realized...
As far as faith is concerned, I agree that millions heard the voice of God...Faith was not required...But after that generation passed, it was the record of that witness, not the witness itself that brought people to God...It was faith...
Just as it is recorded that 500 people saw the risen Jesus Christ...That didn't require any faith either...But for those of us after, we have the written record and we have faith that it is true...
Okay...thank you...dont know what I did but thanks...
As far as faith is concerned, I agree that millions heard the voice of God...Faith was not required...But after that generation passed, it was the record of that witness, not the witness itself that brought people to God...It was faith...
That's right....the point I was making was that when messiah comes, it will not take faith becasue it will be as before...millions of witnesses. It wont take a new testament to try to convince people that he was the guy.
Just as it is recorded that 500 people saw the risen Jesus Christ...That didn't require any faith either...But for those of us after, we have the written record and we have faith that it is true...
But you see, that is exactly where there is a problem. Not once in the OT is the messiah prophecied to be a resurrected personage. And being resurrected is not unique to Jesus. It occurred twice in the OT. And Lazarus was dead longer than Jesus. Resurrection is not on the checklist of criteria for messiah. None of Jesus miracles for that matter. No where in the OT does it say when messiah comes he will work great miracles of walking on water or turning water into wine. A a matter of fact, the bible warns against such people.
If a prophet or a dreamer of dreams arises among you and gives you a sign or a wonder, 2 and the sign or the wonder comes true, concerning which he spoke to you, saying, ‘(B)Let us go after other gods (whom you have not known) and let us serve them,’ 3 you shall not listen to the words of that prophet or that dreamer of dreams; for the LORD your God is (C)testing you to find out if (D)you love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul.
See, even if the miracles happen...then he says worship in a way you have not known (Deut 13:6 whom neither you nor your fathers have known), he is to be rejected. So, when Christianity says G-d is a trinity and this was somehow taught by Jesus, this is something we have not known. That was never taught by Abraham or Moses or David. From the time the law was given untill Jesus. G-d has no form (Deut 4:12-15). G-d is one. (Deut 6:4)
Our fathers never taught a hybrid god-man savior nor a Trinity. So we MUST reject it. It is plainly stated in G-ds word.