Posted on 10/16/2011 1:19:00 PM PDT by NYer
No, he's pretty clear about that; I doubt he was a believer or he would have immediately interpreted his experiences as heavenly, and he would have encountered the Lord. This doesn't sound like heaven, anyway; it was just beautiful and awe-inspiring. But it has taken him a step along the correct path. He seems receptive now, and perhaps will be open to taking the Lord as his Saviour.
Scientists are tough nuts to crack; God knows this, so sometimes He is unusually charitable to them, and kindly shows them such things so that they will inquire after Him. I've known other cases a bit similar to this, in which a hard-boiled pragmatic scientist gets a gentle wake-up slap from God. It's a wonderful thing to watch. Scientists get to see the fascinating way God created the universe, and can be very joyful believers as a result.
He was never afraid to die and always had faith in God for the rest of his life, finally passing for good at the age of 83.
That is so wonderful that you had the chance to say your goodbyes to your dad. You are blessed.
I, in turn, feel blessed by everyone sharing their stories. It was not my intention to hijack this thread. I’m quite gun shy about posting a vanity, except when my dad was dying and the support here is so very heartwarming and exceptional.
God bless all of you who have experienced a loss and even bigger hugs to those of you who are going through the worst of it right now. You are in my prayers.
I read abook about a man named Edgar Cayce who had similar experience. He could even diagnose people’s health problems...but it was about 100 years ago... or more.
He was a different man after that...became a Born again Christian...with adjusted attitude.
Placemark!
That’s for the heads up on this “Evidence of the Afterlife” book Salvation. I downloaded it on my Nook. I am very fascinated by this subject.
You can’t be serious. Did you forget the sarcasm tag?
How is Alexander’s description of an experience, which is indistinguishable in essence from various accounts of drug induced, psychodelic experiences, evidence of anything more than a malfuncitoning mind?
“You can’t be serious. Did you forget the sarcasm tag?”
It’s what happened to me after my near death experience back in 1988. Freaked me out. As a logical left brain tax law professor what happened to me threw me a curve ball that changed my life. I’ve spent over 20 years studying consciousness & cognitive neuroscience after that just to understand myself.
If it were not for the verifiable accuracy of my results, I would have committed myself as “NUTS.”
“How is Alexander’s description of an experience, which is indistinguishable in essence from various accounts of drug induced, psychodelic experiences, evidence of anything more than a malfuncitoning mind?”
I know Eben, we have mutual friends and have heard this presentation on his NDE experience 2 times. As a neurosurgeon he has answered your question from his peers many times. There were too many things that he learned during the NDE, wrote them down prior to talking to anyone about the experience, and then experiences were verified after the experience.
The most profound experience was his meeting his natural birth sister who had died, that he never knew he had. He was adopted, never knew his birth parents, or even that they had married and raised a family after he was put up for adoption by them. He did not meet his birth parents until after the NDE experience.
“Start looking at the language to describe music and color, you’ll begin to notice the crossed senses of the words and themes.”
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Sounds like when I’m cooking. I tend to think in terms of adding bass notes to my soups, for example, and am good at combining harmonious flavors. For me, food is musical.
One of my very favorite Lewis quotes. Thank you for the memory and the smile.
Awesome Thread Bump.
May God guide our course.
Tatt
May I ask why you know so many?
I’ve only met a total of two. Both were strangers that I met a few times, and then never again.
They both seemed full of peace, almost grace. Angelic in a way.
“I’ve met ~25 people who have had Lazarus Syndromes”
So many? Do you work in the medical field?
I’ve only known one, so far as I am aware.
He was an elderly Japanese gentleman, and our conversation was in Japanese. I hope I didn’t miss anything vital because of the language barrier.
“So, are we saying that in these NDE experiences (of redundancy) the soul left the earthly carcass, went to party on with the angels and their heavenly music (Yanni, John Tesh, Kenny G?) and then returned to the body and related the story to the physical brain?”
That might be what one would say if one were explaining it to a six-year-old.
Perhaps the brain is the primary device through which the soul communicates in the material universe. Perhaps the answer is more than the human mind can conceive. Remember Flatland.
I think you will enjoy reading the episodes. I got tired of some of the doctor’s explanations and got to skimming them at the end.
Yes - 25 in clinical practice
Neurologists see a wide array of people
who have been in coma states
In my experience, it is more common that one would think,
just that many will not talk about it as
they believe others will think they are “Crazy”
Thanks for your testimony!
The first person who described this to me
was total stranger in her 20’s
I met “randomly” in College 34 yrs ago
It dominated her awareness,
her story was so clear
I remember it to this day.
Spent an entire afternoon talking
Didn't know her from Eve,
and have not met her since.
Before that I'd never heard of a Lazarus Syndrome
I've kept my eyes open for them ever since
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