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How do Mormons answer ‘not Christian’ claims?
Washington Post ^ | October 12, 2011 | Michael Otterson

Posted on 10/16/2011 1:13:19 PM PDT by greyfoxx39

I had been a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter -day Saints for just a few days when I encountered my first experience of anti-Mormon prejudice.

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“But you’re not Christian and you don’t believe in forgiveness.” It was not a question, but a declaration, delivered with a finality reminiscent of a judge’s gavel rendering verdict on a hapless miscreant.

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Mormons do not pretend that their understanding of Christ is identical to that of Christian orthodoxy. We embrace the New Testament and much of what the modern Christian world teaches about the Savior of the world, but we do not stop there. We have a lot more to add about the Son of God, and it is that additional revelation that causes the real rub with some orthodox Christians. To us, however, refusing to accept further enlightenment on the mission of Jesus Christ is like a math teacher telling his or her students they must stop at multiplication tables. No algebra or calculus allowed.

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For those who want to accelerate that process of understanding, our churches are open to all every Sunday. Use the website to find the nearest chapel to you, and feel free to drop by. If you try to track the number of references to Jesus Christ in the service, you may lose count. So just observe the families, listen to the prayers, leaf through the hymn book to see if any of the hymns seem familiar, and make up your own mind as to how Christian our people are. Jesus taught us: “By their fruits, ye shall know them.”

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TOPICS: Apologetics; Other non-Christian; Religion & Politics; Theology
KEYWORDS: antiamericanism; antichristian; antimormonextremist; antimormonhatred; antimormonjihad; antimormonmanifesto; bitterformermormon; hemanmormonhater; inman; mormoaner; mormon; mormophobia; mormophobic; religiousbigot; religiouszealot; romney
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To: Morgana
Don’t go there!

Too late!

You are DOOMED!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmZRDUO1wGQ

161 posted on 10/18/2011 6:23:59 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Morgana
When I first saw a pic of them, on FR of all places it cured me of all impure thoughts I had of those young cute Mormon missionaries that came to my door!

Not exactly Speedos; right?

162 posted on 10/18/2011 6:24:37 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Jeff Head

You apparently don’t think too much about the unique MORMON theology, as you never talk about it.


163 posted on 10/18/2011 6:27:02 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Colofornian
When it came to "addition," Smith never could stop adding pride and arrogance and hubris to his claims!

Surely NOT!!


JESUS: Hey Smith!       Remember that boast you made about doing more than even I had done to hold the 'church' together?

JOSEPH SMITH: Where am I?

JESUS: Don't you remember? A few seconds ago you were in that jail.

JOSEPH SMITH: Oh; yeah; but where am I NOW?

JESUS: Don't you remember? Does bang - bang ring a bell?

JOSEPH SMITH: Oh; yeah - that crummy gun I had was about USELESS!

JESUS: I hope you left instructions on how to hold your church together.

JOSEPH SMITH: Dang! I knew there was SOMETHING I was forgetting!

JESUS: Looks like there's a power struggle going on down there.

JOSEPH SMITH: Yeah; there was always SOMEone who wanted the power that I held - especially over the LADIES - wink wink.

JESUS: No need to worry about that now; remember what my friend Matthew wrote down?

JOSEPH SMITH: This? “At the resurrection people will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels in heaven” (Matthew 22:30)

JESUS: That's it.

JOSEPH SMITH: I thought that was mistranslated.

JESUS: Nah - it was right.

JOSEPH SMITH: Oh well; it was fun while it lasted. My buds will still get it on with the girls.

JESUS: Uh; I'm sorry; in just a few more years; your followers will cavein to the United States government and abandon the 'Eternal Covenant' that you came up with.

JOSEPH SMITH: ME!? YOU are the one that told me to do that!

JESUS: Sorry; but you must have mistranslated what I told you. What part of Do NOT commit ADULTERY did you not understand?

JOSEPH SMITH: mumble....

JESUS: What did you say?

JOSEPH SMITH: Oh, nothing.

JESUS: Well; it was interesting talking to you; but now I must get back to perparing a place for those who believe in Me.

JOSEPH SMITH: Oh, yeah; the Celestial Kingdom.

JESUS: No...

JOSEPH SMITH: The Telestial one?

JESUS: Nope.

JOSEPH SMITH: SUREly not the TERRESTRIAL one!!

JESUS: Nope. Didn't you read that the mind of man had NOT conceived of it? Paul wrote it down in 1 Corinthians 2:9.

JOSEPH SMITH: I thought that was mistranslated.

JESUS: No; it wasn't.

JOSEPH SMITH: You SURE?

JESUS: Yes. Now I must be going: what did you say your name was again?

JOSEPH SMITH: Joseph Smith.

JESUS: Hmmmm. According to my Heavenly FAITHbook, you didn't sign in as one of my friends - sorry, I never knew you.

JOSEPH SMITH: But.... 

164 posted on 10/18/2011 6:29:26 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Gamecock

165 posted on 10/18/2011 6:33:57 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Invincibly Ignorant
GO YE INTO ALL THE FR WORLD AND BADGER MORMONS SENSELESS ON A DAILY BASIS.

THAT's no fun!

They is already be senseless!


166 posted on 10/18/2011 6:36:18 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Elsie

“Not exactly Speedos; right? “

Boxers or briefs would do, but those things? Okay I should not complain no one is forcing me to be in that religion. It just baffles me that they conceive so many children wearing undies like those!


167 posted on 10/18/2011 6:39:52 PM PDT by Morgana ("Since using your shampoo my hair has come alive!" ----Medusa)
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To: greyfoxx39
Mormonism is counting on those who are ignorant of the rules.

Socks? Underwear? What DIFFERENCE does it make?

I wudda bought the white salamander, but I only had enough money for these wings.

168 posted on 10/18/2011 6:39:52 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: xzins
I would add that I believe God will lead them out of that denomination into a legitimate sheepfold where they’ll be nurtured.

AMEN!

Child like faith is rewarded; but as that child grows and LEARNS more, he is expected to have a mutation of his faith to match his knowledge.

Those early SAVED 'mormons' will become UNsaved if they buy more and more into MORMONism's Jesus and less of the Biblically revealed Jesus.

169 posted on 10/18/2011 6:45:04 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: greyfoxx39
That's a tough row to hoe for mormons...not only are they ordered to "follow the profit", the whole culture is bound hand and foot by the "church".



In conclusion let us summarize this grand key, these “Fourteen Fundamentals in Following the Prophet”, for our salvation depends on them.


1. The prophet is the only man who speaks for the Lord in everything.
2. The living prophet is more vital to us than the standard works.
3. The living prophet is more important to us than a dead prophet.
4. The prophet will never lead the church astray.
5. The prophet is not required to have any particular earthly training or credentials to speak on any subject or act on any matter at any time.
6. The prophet does not have to say “Thus Saith the Lord,” to give us scripture.
7. The prophet tells us what we need to know, not always what we want to know.
8. The prophet is not limited by men’s reasoning.
9. The prophet can receive revelation on any matter, temporal or spiritual.
10. The prophet may advise on civic matters.
11. The two groups who have the greatest difficulty in following the prophet are the proud who are learned and the proud who are rich.
12. The prophet will not necessarily be popular with the world or the worldly.
13. The prophet and his counselors make up the First Presidency—the highest quorum in the Church.
14. The prophet and the presidency—the living prophet and the First Presidency—follow them and be blessed—reject them and suffer.

I testify that these fourteen fundamentals in following the living prophet are true. If we want to know how well we stand with the Lord then let us ask ourselves how well we stand with His mortal captain—how close do our lives harmonize with the Lord’s anointed—the living Prophet—President of the Church, and with the Quorum of the First Presidency.

Ezra Taft Benson

(Address given Tuesday, February 26, 1980 at Brigham Young University)

170 posted on 10/18/2011 6:46:23 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: greyfoxx39
We pray for them.

And 'beat them senseless' with FACTS!

171 posted on 10/18/2011 6:47:06 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: greyfoxx39
One implication of the ceremony is that the recipients will have a personal visitation of Christ.

Guess which one...


172 posted on 10/18/2011 6:48:56 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: greyfoxx39
Thread highjack ATTEMPT in progress.
173 posted on 10/18/2011 6:50:00 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: patlin
Do I believe in a triune God? NO

How about a BIune one?

Let US make man in OUR image...

174 posted on 10/18/2011 6:53:04 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: patlin
Would man have believed the words of a talking donkey traveling around preaching & teaching Torah?

Maybe...


175 posted on 10/18/2011 6:55:40 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: starlifter

But they ARE waiting to snatch me when I die!!!


176 posted on 10/18/2011 6:58:52 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: patlin

Right on. Make them look at their own religious history.


177 posted on 10/18/2011 7:00:04 PM PDT by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: starlifter

Haven’t you seen GHOST?

Yup; MORMON baptizers snatched that guy down the manhole!


178 posted on 10/18/2011 7:06:23 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Invincibly Ignorant
Make them look at their own religious history.

History?

Heck; we can't even get MORMONs to agree on their GEOGRAPHY!!

179 posted on 10/18/2011 7:10:09 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Elsie; Morgana
morgana: When I first saw a pic of them, on FR of all places it cured me of all impure thoughts I had of those young cute Mormon missionaries that came to my door!

elsie: Not exactly Speedos; right?

You two will be getting a bill for a new keyboard and monitor.

180 posted on 10/18/2011 7:41:41 PM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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