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To: SeekAndFind
As a Roman Catholic, you DO believe that Jesus Christ IS God ( not CREATED by God, therefore, NOT God’s son in the sense that my son was born from me ).

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I have never stated that I was a member of the Roman Catholic Church. I have done all I can to not give my personal beliefs. I do not consider it important for other to know what my religion is or isn't because I do not see anyone on this earth as my judge.

Is there room for believing that Christ was not always God? I would say there are plenty of scriptures that would lead one to believe that He increased in wisdom and stature. That He completed the work His Father sent Him to do. Prior to that what was He? I can't answer the question. I can only say that to me He is God The Son. Through Him I have the opportunity to live in His presence forever. If I get to live in His presence I fully one day expect to inherit all He has. He has told me as much through His word.

I do the best I can to truly follow Christ and admire all that do likewise but I am loathe to judge them without first really understanding their beliefs.

Mormons are different than Roman Catholics, Methodists are different than Baptists are different than Lutherans are different than Presbyterians are different than Orthodox Catholics. etc. . . . .

50 posted on 10/10/2011 9:43:18 AM PDT by JAKraig (Surely my religion is at least as good as yours)
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To: JAKraig

RE: Mormons are different than Roman Catholics, Methodists are different than Baptists are different than Lutherans are different than Presbyterians are different than Orthodox Catholics. etc. . . . .

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Roman Catholics, Orthodox, Methodists, Luthers and Baptists all susbcribe to the CREEDS of the Historic Christian faith. This includes the Nicene Creed which delineates the difference between what Christians and heretics believe.

Mormons cannot claim to subscribe to this creed and STILL maintain fealty to their doctrine without showing contradictions.

I wish Mormons would simply acknowledge that and come out openly and say — WE BELIEVE THAT OUR FAITH IS THE MOST CORRECT ONE AND THAT THE CREEDS THAT ALL OTHERS BELIEVE IN ARE NOT.

I would accept that and resepctfully disagree with them.

Or Mormons should simply say this — We have a different definition of the term — Christian from the others. That would be more clarifying.


57 posted on 10/10/2011 9:51:04 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (u)
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To: JAKraig

“Is there room for believing that Christ was not always God? I would say there are plenty of scriptures that would lead one to believe that He increased in wisdom and stature.”

The verse about gaining in wisdom and stature deals with His human nature - not his divine nature. John 1 and Colossians makes it clear that Jesus is God and is the Creator of all things, and there is no other God.

Your view is not in line with Biblical Christianity. If you choose to continue in that belief, that is certainly your perogative, but it’s not accurate to state your belief that Jesus wasn’t always God is supported by the Bible and acceptable within the teachings of Christianity.

Christian denominations don’t debate the nature of God or Jesus! You continue the trivialize the differences between mormon teachings and Christianity as if they are minor - when in reality they are fundamental differences.


64 posted on 10/10/2011 10:00:15 AM PDT by Turtlepower
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