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Chesterton on devotion to the Blessed Virgin Mary [Ecumenical]
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| Posted 10-07-11
| G.K. Chesterton
Posted on 10/07/2011 7:22:11 PM PDT by Salvation
I do not want to be in a religion in which I am allowed to have a crucifix. I feel the same about the much more controversial question of the honour paid to the Blessed Virgin. If people do not like that cult, they are quite right not to be Catholics. But in people who are Catholics, or call themselves Catholics, I want the idea not only liked but loved and loved ardently, and above all proudly proclaimed. I want it to be what the Protestants are perfectly right in calling it; the badge and sign of a Papist. I want to be allowed to be enthusiastic about the existence of the enthusiasm; not to have my chief enthusiasm coldly tolerated as an eccentricity of myself. And that is why, with all the good will in the world, I cannot feel the crucifix at one end of the town as a substitute for the little Roman Catholic Church at the other.
From the Autobiography of G.K. Chesterton
The honour given to Mary as the Mother of God is, among a thousand other things, a very perfect example of the truth to which I have recurred more than once: that even what we may call the Protestant truths were only saved by the Catholic authority. Among these is the very necessary truth of the subordination of Mary to Christ, as being after all the subordination of the creature to the Creator. Nothing amuses Catholics more than the suggestion, in so much of the old Protestant propaganda, that they are to be freed from the superstition called Mariolatry, like people freed from the burden of daylight. All the spontaneous spirituality, as distinct from the necessary doctrinal orthodoxy, is on the side of the extension and even excess of this cult. If Catholics had been left to their private judgment, to their personal religious experience, to their sense of the essential spirit of Christ and Christianity, to any of the liberal or latitudinarian tests of truth, they would long ago have exalted our Lady to a height of superhuman supremacy and splendour that might really have imperilled the pure monotheism in the core of the creed. Over whole tracts of popular opinion she might have been a goddess more universal than Isis. It is the authority of Rome that has prevented such Catholics from indulging in such Mariolatry; the strict definition that distinguished between a perfect woman and a divine Man.
From The Catholic Church and Conversion, by G.K. Chesterton
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Chesterton treats both sides of this question fairly in my opinion.
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posted on
10/07/2011 7:22:19 PM PDT
by
Salvation
To: Jo Nuvark
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posted on
10/07/2011 7:23:38 PM PDT
by
Salvation
("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
To: Salvation; Absolutely Nobama; Elendur; it_ürür; Bockscar; Mary Kochan; Bed_Zeppelin; ...
My soul magnifies the Lord,
And my spirit rejoices in God my Savior.
For He has regarded the low estate of His handmaiden,
For behold, henceforth all generations shall call me blessed.
For He who is mighty has done great things for me, and holy is His name. And His mercy is on those who fear Him from generation to generation.
He has shown strength with His arm:
He has scattered the proud in the imagination of their hearts.
He has put down the mighty from their thrones,
and exalted those of low degree.
He has filled the hungry with good things;
and the rich He has sent empty away.
He has helped His servant Israel, in remembrance of His mercy;
As He spoke to our fathers, to Abraham and to His posterity forever.
Glory be to the Father and to the Son and to the Holy Spirit.
As it was in the beginning, is now and ever shall be, world without end. Amen
Magníficat ánima mea Dóminum,
et exsultávit spíritus meus
in Deo salvatóre meo,
quia respéxit humilitátem
ancíllæ suæ.
Ecce enim ex hoc beátam
me dicent omnes generatiónes,
quia fecit mihi magna,
qui potens est,
et sanctum nomen eius,
et misericórdia eius in progénies
et progénies timéntibus eum.
Fecit poténtiam in bráchio suo,
dispérsit supérbos mente cordis sui;
depósuit poténtes de sede
et exaltávit húmiles.
Esuriéntes implévit bonis
et dívites dimísit inánes.
Suscépit Ísrael púerum suum,
recordátus misericórdiæ,
sicut locútus est ad patres nostros,
Ábraham et sémini eius in sæcula.
Glória Patri et Fílio
et Spirítui Sancto.
Sicut erat in princípio,
et nunc et semper,
et in sæcula sæculórum.
Amen.
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posted on
10/07/2011 7:24:36 PM PDT
by
narses
("Fallacies do not cease to be fallacies because they become fashions." Chesterton)
To: nickcarraway; NYer; ELS; Pyro7480; livius; ArrogantBustard; Catholicguy; RobbyS; marshmallow; ...
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posted on
10/07/2011 7:25:30 PM PDT
by
Salvation
("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
To: narses
A moving prayerful devotion which I never tire of seeing.
Thanks:)
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posted on
10/07/2011 7:34:41 PM PDT
by
Jvette
To: Salvation
Thanks so very much! This is wonderful!
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posted on
10/07/2011 7:40:33 PM PDT
by
Judith Anne
( Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now, and at the hour of our death.)
To: Salvation
Ah, what Chesterton could do on a forum such as this.
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posted on
10/07/2011 7:44:27 PM PDT
by
Jvette
To: Jvette
LOL! Like talk the socks off some people?
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posted on
10/07/2011 7:46:41 PM PDT
by
Salvation
("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
To: Salvation
Chesterton treats both sides of this question fairly in my opinion. More than fair -- he's charitable.
Bump.
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posted on
10/07/2011 7:59:17 PM PDT
by
the invisib1e hand
(...then they came for the guitars, and we kicked their sorry faggot asses into the dust)
To: the invisib1e hand
Chuckle.....
Also, as one FReeper said to me, Chesterton did not suffer fools gladly.
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posted on
10/07/2011 8:08:21 PM PDT
by
Salvation
("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
To: Jvette
Ah, what Chesterton could do on a forum such as this. Not much I'm thinkin'...Not as long as you have Bible Believers on one side while you have Catholics on the other...Chesterton's machinations do not trump the scriptures...
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posted on
10/07/2011 9:50:02 PM PDT
by
Iscool
(You mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailerpark...)
To: Salvation
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posted on
10/08/2011 2:58:12 AM PDT
by
Mad Dawg
(Jesus, I trust in you.)
To: Iscool
Catholics ARE Bible believers, as well as Bible compilers. Chesterton would’ve been an admirable addition to this board, all the way around.
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posted on
10/08/2011 5:20:23 AM PDT
by
sayuncledave
(et Verbum caro factum est)
To: Salvation
“I want it to be what the Protestants are perfectly right in calling it; the badge and sign of a Papist. “
That’s not what they call it. Mariolatry is the term.
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posted on
10/08/2011 5:46:15 AM PDT
by
RoadTest
(For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus.)
To: Jvette
On my way to work each day I pray the Rosary. I love the time it allows me to devout myself to God. I know it gives me great grace and peace to get me through the day.
I remember Archbishop Fulton Sheen once saying to a woman, who complained that the Rosary is a redundant prayer, in one of his speeches, "How often do you say I love you to your husband?" "Is that redundant?"
I keep that in mind always.
Blessings to you on this month of Marian devotion.
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posted on
10/08/2011 5:50:27 AM PDT
by
Northern Yankee
(Where Liberty dwells, there is my Country. - Benjamin Franklin)
To: Northern Yankee
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posted on
10/08/2011 6:07:32 AM PDT
by
johngrace
(1 John 4!- which is also declared at every sunday mass.)
To: Northern Yankee
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posted on
10/08/2011 6:07:35 AM PDT
by
johngrace
(1 John 4!- which is also declared at every sunday mass.)
To: RoadTest; Salvation
Mariolatry? care to define this term?
To: Iscool
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posted on
10/08/2011 8:33:45 AM PDT
by
Jvette
To: Northern Yankee
Last night the kids of our church said a living rosary.
Afterwards we gathered for cookies and punch.
What a marvelous uplifting of hearts and minds in prayer.
I think the story you relate with Archbishop Sheen occurred on a plane ride. The woman was in the seat next to him and commented because he was praying the rosary.
Chesterton would have been an admirer Sheen.
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posted on
10/08/2011 8:36:46 AM PDT
by
Jvette
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