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To: SeekAndFind
“Life is not long enough to conclude anything”
How did he come to that conclusion?
To: SeekAndFind
He's pretty impressed with himself.
Schaeffer claimed he neither sides with the right or the left because he has seen the same blood in your eye fundamentalist zeal in both camps.
3 posted on
10/07/2011 1:15:05 PM PDT by
DManA
To: SeekAndFind
...free to create our own conception of God, reality, and morality...
That is, in fact, the human condition. God gives us the grace to accept him or deny him or even to make a god in our own image. Good luck with that, Franky.
4 posted on
10/07/2011 1:15:16 PM PDT by
newheart
(When does policy become treason?)
To: SeekAndFind
Life is not long enough to conclude anything
Hm...An interesting CONCLUSION.
5 posted on
10/07/2011 1:15:45 PM PDT by
NakedRampage
(Fortis cadere, cedere non potest (A brave man may fall, but he cannot yield))
To: SeekAndFind
Insanity has finally set in with Schaeffer.
7 posted on
10/07/2011 1:19:15 PM PDT by
DarthVader
(That which supports Barack Hussein Obama must be sterilized and there are NO exceptions!)
To: SeekAndFind
That apple sure fell far from the tree. What an idiot.
9 posted on
10/07/2011 1:21:31 PM PDT by
HerrBlucher
("It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged." G.K. Chesterton)
To: SeekAndFind
Another fool willing to prostitute his soul for lucre.
Blah, blah, blah, buy my book...
10 posted on
10/07/2011 1:23:14 PM PDT by
American in Israel
(A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
To: SeekAndFind
> Certainty kills, he explained,no one ever bombed an
> abortion clinic or a mosque after yelling but I could be
> wrong.
Maybe it’s just me, but the only people bombing mosques are Mahometans, and the last abortion clinic bombing was almost a generation ago, and not done by a Christian, either.
To: SeekAndFind
The problem, Schaeffer explained, is belief with certainty. Certainty kills,
That may be the saddest statement I’ve ever seen.
13 posted on
10/07/2011 1:25:57 PM PDT by
jagusafr
("We hold these truths to be self-evident...")
To: SeekAndFind
All athiests I meet fear Christianity like its some kind of Government secret mind-control trick. They real are quite paranoid about it, and it shows.
14 posted on
10/07/2011 1:26:25 PM PDT by
PGR88
(I'm so open-minded my brains fell out)
To: SeekAndFind
He has a problem with certainty? Note that he blames “certainty” for the bombing of abortion clinics. Note that he DOESN’T blame “certainty” for abortion. No one ever aborted a baby while yelling, “But I could be wrong.”
In short, he has a bigger problem with bombing an abortion clinic than he has with 53 million abortions.
It was obvious several years ago that he had ceased to be a pro-lifer. No Christian, other than an apostate Christian, can fail to be pro-life.
18 posted on
10/07/2011 1:28:42 PM PDT by
Arthur McGowan
(In Edward Kennedy's America, federal funding of brothels is a right, not a privilege.)
To: SeekAndFind
This is by no means a ‘revelation’ of anything new. He has simply ‘discovered’ nihilism.
19 posted on
10/07/2011 1:30:58 PM PDT by
240B
(he is doing everything he said he wouldn't and not doing what he said he would)
To: SeekAndFind
Certainty kills, he explained,no one ever bombed an abortion clinic or a mosque after yelling but I could be wrong.
He’s right, you know. Atheists are never zealous or kill people./s
To: SeekAndFind
Am I supposed to know who this fool is?
23 posted on
10/07/2011 1:33:27 PM PDT by
pgkdan
(Perry 2012!)
To: SeekAndFind
In the end of his talk, he was at least somewhat consistent, and said if you disagree with me, youre not going to hell, youre probably right!
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That’s being consistent? This guy is as mixed up as they come.
31 posted on
10/07/2011 1:41:18 PM PDT by
Responsibility2nd
(NO LIBS! This means liberals AND libertarians (same thing) NO LIBS!)
To: SeekAndFind
Life is not long enough to conclude anything, its only enough to try your best along the way, Schaeffer said, and further, if salvation is correct doctrine, then everyone is lost. To those who hold religious beliefs he said, believe me, you will someday reach a point where you know that was dumb. Schaeffer said his life, for better or worse, worse mainly, happens to intersect the rise of the the religious right in America, which also happens to have ruined the United States. He believes a deity exists, and accepts some select moral teachings from Christianity but, Jesus had to be separated in my mind from a political movement before I could even consider looking at the teaching again as anything but an appendage of a system that failed. Schaeffer presented his views as an alternative to the opposing views of new atheists such as Richard Dawkins and Christopher Hitchens, and orthodox Christians. Secularism is not the answer, he said, it is not what its cracked up to be, but also, its not Gods fault that theres dumb stuff in the Bible. According to Schaeffer, we are not stuck with the stupidity of Christianity, but are free to create our own conception of God, reality, and morality. Not believing in the Christian God doesnt mean that a God that loves me
and created love and personality and relationships in a universe that otherwise would be dark and cold isnt out there. Ping for later.
36 posted on
10/07/2011 1:58:13 PM PDT by
Alex Murphy
(http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2703506/posts?page=518#518)
To: SeekAndFind
” It is dogmatic belief in the Bible and the God of the Bible that, according to Schaeffer, has ultimately caused the rise of the religious right and the decline of the country it has so impacted.
This is so patently the opposite of what is happening even now, that the only possible conclusion is that the subject is stupid, delusional or evil.
38 posted on
10/07/2011 2:04:45 PM PDT by
TalBlack
( Evil doesn't have a day job.)
To: SeekAndFind
Does he receive money from his father’s estate???
I wonder.
39 posted on
10/07/2011 2:08:00 PM PDT by
fishtank
(The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
To: SeekAndFind
Oh, Boy . . .
Here we go.
40 posted on
10/07/2011 2:12:41 PM PDT by
YHAOS
(you betcha!)
To: SeekAndFind
He goes from fundamentalist, to strict Eastern Orthodox, to secularist. Sad.
43 posted on
10/07/2011 2:23:00 PM PDT by
rzman21
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