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1 posted on 10/07/2011 1:10:46 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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“Life is not long enough to conclude anything”

How did he come to that conclusion?


2 posted on 10/07/2011 1:14:27 PM PDT by rightwingcrazy
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He's pretty impressed with himself.

Schaeffer claimed he neither sides with the right or the left because he has “seen the same blood in your eye fundamentalist zeal in both camps.”

3 posted on 10/07/2011 1:15:05 PM PDT by DManA
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...free to create our own conception of God, reality, and morality...

That is, in fact, the human condition. God gives us the grace to accept him or deny him or even to make a god in our own image. Good luck with that, Franky.

4 posted on 10/07/2011 1:15:16 PM PDT by newheart (When does policy become treason?)
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“Life is not long enough to conclude anything”

Hm...An interesting CONCLUSION.

5 posted on 10/07/2011 1:15:45 PM PDT by NakedRampage (Fortis cadere, cedere non potest (A brave man may fall, but he cannot yield))
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Insanity has finally set in with Schaeffer.


7 posted on 10/07/2011 1:19:15 PM PDT by DarthVader (That which supports Barack Hussein Obama must be sterilized and there are NO exceptions!)
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That apple sure fell far from the tree. What an idiot.


9 posted on 10/07/2011 1:21:31 PM PDT by HerrBlucher ("It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged." G.K. Chesterton)
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Another fool willing to prostitute his soul for lucre.

Blah, blah, blah, buy my book...


10 posted on 10/07/2011 1:23:14 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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> “Certainty kills,” he explained,“no one ever bombed an
> abortion clinic or a mosque after yelling ‘but I could be
> wrong.’”

Maybe it’s just me, but the only people bombing mosques are Mahometans, and the last abortion clinic bombing was almost a generation ago, and not done by a Christian, either.


12 posted on 10/07/2011 1:25:49 PM PDT by Westbrook
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The problem, Schaeffer explained, is belief with certainty. “Certainty kills,”

That may be the saddest statement I’ve ever seen.


13 posted on 10/07/2011 1:25:57 PM PDT by jagusafr ("We hold these truths to be self-evident...")
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All athiests I meet fear Christianity like its some kind of Government secret mind-control trick. They real are quite paranoid about it, and it shows.


14 posted on 10/07/2011 1:26:25 PM PDT by PGR88 (I'm so open-minded my brains fell out)
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He has a problem with certainty? Note that he blames “certainty” for the bombing of abortion clinics. Note that he DOESN’T blame “certainty” for abortion. No one ever aborted a baby while yelling, “But I could be wrong.”

In short, he has a bigger problem with bombing an abortion clinic than he has with 53 million abortions.

It was obvious several years ago that he had ceased to be a pro-lifer. No Christian, other than an apostate Christian, can fail to be pro-life.


18 posted on 10/07/2011 1:28:42 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan (In Edward Kennedy's America, federal funding of brothels is a right, not a privilege.)
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This is by no means a ‘revelation’ of anything new. He has simply ‘discovered’ nihilism.


19 posted on 10/07/2011 1:30:58 PM PDT by 240B (he is doing everything he said he wouldn't and not doing what he said he would)
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“Certainty kills,” he explained,“no one ever bombed an abortion clinic or a mosque after yelling ‘but I could be wrong.’”

He’s right, you know. Atheists are never zealous or kill people./s


20 posted on 10/07/2011 1:31:54 PM PDT by Tublecane
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Am I supposed to know who this fool is?


23 posted on 10/07/2011 1:33:27 PM PDT by pgkdan (Perry 2012!)
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In the end of his talk, he was at least somewhat consistent, and said “if you disagree with me, you’re not going to hell, you’re probably right!”

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That’s being consistent? This guy is as mixed up as they come.


31 posted on 10/07/2011 1:41:18 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS! This means liberals AND libertarians (same thing) NO LIBS!)
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“Life is not long enough to conclude anything, it’s only enough to try your best along the way,” Schaeffer said, and further, “if salvation is correct doctrine, then everyone is lost.” To those who hold religious beliefs he said, “believe me, you will someday reach a point where you know that was dumb.” Schaeffer said his life, “for better or worse, worse mainly, happens to intersect the rise of the the religious right in America, which also happens to have ruined the United States.” He believes a deity exists, and accepts some select moral teachings from Christianity but, “Jesus had to be separated in my mind from a political movement before I could even consider looking at the teaching again as anything but an appendage of a system that failed.” Schaeffer presented his views as an alternative to the opposing views of “new atheists” such as Richard Dawkins and Christopher Hitchens, and orthodox Christians. “Secularism” is not the answer, he said, it “is not what it’s cracked up to be,” but also, “it’s not God’s fault that there’s dumb stuff in the Bible.” According to Schaeffer, we are not “stuck with the stupidity of Christianity,” but are free to create our own conception of God, reality, and morality. Not believing in the Christian God “doesn’t mean that a God that loves me … and created love and personality and relationships in a universe that otherwise would be dark and cold isn’t out there.”

Ping for later.

36 posted on 10/07/2011 1:58:13 PM PDT by Alex Murphy (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2703506/posts?page=518#518)
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” It is dogmatic belief in the Bible and the God of the Bible that, according to Schaeffer, has ultimately caused “the rise of the religious right and the decline of the country it has so impacted.”

This is so patently the opposite of what is happening even now, that the only possible conclusion is that the subject is stupid, delusional or evil.

38 posted on 10/07/2011 2:04:45 PM PDT by TalBlack ( Evil doesn't have a day job.)
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Does he receive money from his father’s estate???

I wonder.


39 posted on 10/07/2011 2:08:00 PM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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Oh, Boy . . .
Here we go.
40 posted on 10/07/2011 2:12:41 PM PDT by YHAOS (you betcha!)
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He goes from fundamentalist, to strict Eastern Orthodox, to secularist. Sad.


43 posted on 10/07/2011 2:23:00 PM PDT by rzman21
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