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City Demands Christians Get Permit For Bible Study
WND ^ | 9/18/2011

Posted on 09/18/2011 2:31:40 PM PDT by Just4Him

Chuck and Stephanie Fromm already have been fined $300 for holding Bible studies for their friends at their home, and they face the potential for additional fines of $500 for each study held, according to a legal team taking their case to court.

The newest conflict over Bible studies in homes in America arose in San Juan Capistrano, Calif., where city officials say city code section 9-3.301 prohibits religious organizations in residential neighborhoods without a conditional-use permit, a sometimes very expensive procedure.

The code cites "churches, temples, synagogues, monasteries, religious retreats, and other places of religious worship and other fraternal and community service organizations."

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To: count-your-change

I always wondered what is it SWAT teams have with killing dogs? I’m sure we don’t hear about the good guys, but dang, if you’re a psychopath who loves to kill, SWAT seems like your best career option.


81 posted on 09/19/2011 6:17:03 AM PDT by dangus
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To: Honorary Serb

Of course it won’t hold up in American courts, California is just teaching the Chinese how to keep their perfect fascist state clean.


82 posted on 09/19/2011 6:18:25 AM PDT by dangus
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To: dangus

Christophobia, the irrational fear of Christ and Christians.


83 posted on 09/19/2011 6:21:04 AM PDT by Rodm
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To: SkyDancer

they could but that would be breaking the False Witness commandment


84 posted on 09/19/2011 7:03:00 AM PDT by drypowder
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To: marsh2

People are having a knee jerk reaction to this. The group is hosting 20 and 50 person meetings. That’s a lot of cars and I’m betting the neighbors complained about parking.
It’s also Christians giving offense to their neighbors.
This should be watched for persecution, but I’m betting the city is right.


85 posted on 09/19/2011 7:27:51 AM PDT by LevinFan
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To: Just4Him

I am a Christian and my thoughts are the state is wrong, however, if these folks are having so many people over their parking all up and down the street and causing an issue that way they won’t be making many converts. I’m sure thier church, and they should really have one, would allow them to host a bible study there.


86 posted on 09/19/2011 7:30:52 AM PDT by Scythian
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To: goat granny

People do have a right to be able in and out of their homes. Or how about people come and block yours a couple times a week? I’ve been to a number of Bible studies and groups. 12 is usually considered the maximum number. Not 20 and certainly not 50. If you have a group that big, make arrangements to meet at the church or rent a facility.
Christians aren’t supposed to be offensive to others. You run people away from Christ that way.


87 posted on 09/19/2011 7:50:07 AM PDT by LevinFan
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To: dangus
I think it's because a dog has no respect for a uniform.

“Paws up Fido!”
“Arff”
Bang. No more Fido.

88 posted on 09/19/2011 7:57:37 AM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: Gabz; Just another Joe; Mears; RandallFlagg; metesky

The Righteous Right was very much for trampling of private property rights when it was a debate over smoking bans. Sadly, they are being hoisted upon their own petard. I am sorry to see it, but do have to say that we warned the RR FReepers repeatedly....

Now that it is to late to protect private property, are they expecting others to join the fight that they helped bring to defeat?


89 posted on 09/19/2011 9:03:50 AM PDT by CSM (Keeper of the "Dave Ramsey Fan" ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: LevinFan
I don't think the number of cars involved was in the article, or maybe I missed it....so quoting numbers isn't relevant..I did home health care for a sweet old woman but she was very territorial....the neighbor across the street kept parking in front of her house and she thought he should use his own driveway...(don't know why he didn't but she didn't drive and her car had been in the garage for 4 years) she told me she was going to call the police about it...I told her the street was public property but she called the police anyway....streets are not private property and anyone can park anyplace

I don't think the article said the car's were blocking driveways...no one person owns the streets.

I hazard a guess that some neighbor had a burr under their saddle and complained...

If what someone does in their home is open to government inspection (of course if what is done is not criminal) the government or those that make the rules have a Napoleon complex and think their little gods...

90 posted on 09/19/2011 2:11:00 PM PDT by goat granny
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To: SumProVita

One of the articles about this said that the couple live on 4.7 acres and that there is plenty of room for parking. The implication from the article was that it was off-street parking on the people’s property.

I used to live across the street from a noisy ELK’s lodge. They never got in trouble for disturbing my sleep with yelling and profanity at 2 a.m. in the morning when returning to their cars which were parked right in front of my duplex.

These fines are clearly a case of religious discrimination.


91 posted on 09/19/2011 2:35:23 PM PDT by MarilynBr
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To: Honorary Serb
Parishes have been holding Bible studies in the homes of volunteer members since time immemorial. And the first ever Christian parishes met in homes—see the Book of Acts

Good thing they didn't have HOA's or zoning boards!

92 posted on 09/19/2011 4:02:55 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: CSM
How many times have we told the nannies of all stripes that it would happen to them sooner or later? It's not even worth a face palm.

The positive takeaway on this is that every day overreaching government makes more enemies, more tea partiers.

How've you been, Bud?

93 posted on 09/19/2011 4:14:29 PM PDT by metesky (Brethren, leave us go amongst them! - Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond, The Searchers)
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To: dangus

” I’m sure we don’t hear about the good guys, but dang, if you’re a psychopath who loves to kill, SWAT seems like your best career option.”

....

My son is one of the good guys. SWAT guys are usually ex- military. Are the military psychopaths too?


94 posted on 09/19/2011 4:44:54 PM PDT by Mears
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To: Still Thinking

The Romans, pagan priests, and Pharisees were pretty hostile to those early Christians who met in house churches—read Acts and the Apostolic Fathers. But they didn’t use zoning laws against them!


95 posted on 09/19/2011 5:25:51 PM PDT by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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To: Quix

Jeepers... Thanks for the ping.


96 posted on 09/19/2011 8:46:56 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Mears

With a few incredibly hyped exceptions, no, they’re heroes. But you need to take a logic course if you’re thinking “Some A are X, Some B are X, therefore, A must be B.”


97 posted on 09/20/2011 5:53:09 AM PDT by dangus
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