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To: Turtlepower

You don’t get it.

As soon as you are mentioning someone’s name with everything you are saying about the Mormon Faith, you are projecting all of that on to him.

This is judging.

The penalties for this are well understood.

You just don’t want to face up to it, but you know it is true and this is the reason so many people attacked me.


514 posted on 09/07/2011 6:27:09 AM PDT by dila813
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To: dila813

You don’t get it.

Beck is a public person who because of his celebrity status is a defacto spokesperson of the Mormon church. He has made numerous statements in favor of the teachings of the mormon church and none to my knowledge that disavow the false teachings of the church.

Therefore, Christians have every right to caution others about his spiritual influence. In the same way that Oprah has led many people astray with her book endorsements, Beck is promoting the mormon faith and should be called out as one who doesn’t proclaim spiritual truth.

“You just don’t want to face up to it, but you know it is true and this is the reason so many people attacked me.”

That is form of mind-reading, which as you should know by now is not allowed on this forum. Quit playing the victim card for yourself and mormons....you are being personally attacked. It is your statements that are being challenged.


521 posted on 09/07/2011 6:55:50 AM PDT by Turtlepower
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To: dila813; Turtlepower
As soon as you are mentioning someone’s name with everything you are saying about the Mormon Faith, you are projecting all of that on to him.

Well mean green team, seems dila misses something VERY big. Beck constantly injects his mormonism into his programs and activities.

And yet we are wrong some how for connecting the dots.

You just don’t want to face up to it, but you know it is true and this is the reason so many people attacked me.

I'd offer you some cheese to go with that whine, but it wouldn't go well with all the onions rubbed into the face to generate the tears.

554 posted on 09/07/2011 8:17:33 AM PDT by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: dila813
As soon as you are mentioning someone’s name with everything you are saying about the Mormon Faith, you are projecting all of that on to him. This is judging.

This is discernment, which the Bible says we are called to exercise. What? Have you been failing to exercise Biblical discernment? Have you been disobeying our Lord?

If you have a pre-teen or teen daughter asking about a couple living together next door, you have a couple of choices: (a) You could inject morality into the discussion -- knowing that you're not just talking about this couple but also choices your daughter will one day make; or (b) You could avoid making any "moral judgment" on the couple because you perceive that as "judging" another & that's "God's" role to do that.

I would say those parents who practice (b) vs. (a) tend to -- over the long run -- have more children who wind up cohabitating than the (a) category. Why? Because they failed to practice discernment and export it to the next generation. Instead, they opted for a licentious live-and-let live lifestyle...at least in how they parented their kids.

Now, I'm not saying the above dynamics may not also fall into stereotyping. But there's an interesting thing about many stereotypes: They often are either true, mostly true, or partially true.

If you find out somebody lives in a certain neighborhood, yes, you may not actually know if they live in a mansion or a shack. But if they live in a neighborhood that's beyond an upscale neighborhood in an elite area, guess what? Your "stereotype" exercise of discernment about the material well-being of a given person is likely to be on the mark.

What you, Dila, seem to be advocating on this thread -- is that if you find out a person lives in a neighborhood full of mansions, that we are to presume this person is not wealthy because that would be "judging."

People make stereotypes about others all the time:
About die-hard sports fans
About avid Obama supporters
About gun supporters
About pacifists and war protesters

We all operate under many "identities" fused into one:
We are parents, children, siblings, employees/employers, fraternal club members, sports fans of certain teams, community & neighborhood residents, with family school ties, cause catalysts, political party members, FREEPERS & church members.

Each of those identities elicits certain characteristics. Some university sports teams, for example, if their state has no pro teams, tend to elicit an almost extreme fanatical following. While those fans are present with all/most university teams in that same sport, frankly some cultures produce more of an almost "cult-like" following than others. That is an observation that is generally true of certain cultures -- but obviously not necessarily true of everyone living in that culture.

So stereotyping can devolve into overgeneralizations that are not true of all. Indeed, assumptions that are true for many, but not for all.

Your assumptions, Dila, work the other way. Your assumptions are tantamount to assuming/presuming that somebody living in one of those non-pro-team states isn't affected by that culture. That is a way-off-the-mark assumption.

The fact is that Beck lives in a Mormon culture; he is bathed in it like most Mormons. And while it's true that Utah Mormons are even more "die-hard" in living & breathing a more concentrated culture than non-Utah Mormons, for you to presume they don't "catch" that culture is quite a presumption on your part.

592 posted on 09/07/2011 9:55:47 AM PDT by Colofornian
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To: dila813
As soon as you are mentioning someone’s name with everything you are saying about the Mormon Faith, you are projecting all of that on to him.

Welcome to the club.

If a person is disturbed at being called a RACIST; then they probably should NOT be wearing a hooded sheet.

602 posted on 09/07/2011 12:23:33 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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