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From the article: Here Glenn Beck goes again, claiming he's a Christian, this time at Restoring Courage 2011 — Jerusalem. Glenn gets upset when anyone questions his Christianity. That's weird because he's a Mormon who affirms the official teaching of Mormonism aka the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS). The LDS outright deny many of the essential doctrines of the Christian faith. Moreover, LDS doctrine contradicts what Scripture teaches. So of course there are Christians who feel Beck's not a true follower of Jesus Christ — not the Jesus of the Bible anyway. When his "I'm a Christian" claim is held up to scrutiny Glenn gets his knickers in a knot. At the rally he choked up with emotion and said in an accusatory tone that only Christians question his salvation. Poor Glenn. He's so misunderstood.

Ah. The common Mormon PR line these days. "We're so misunderstood." "So many 'myths' out there about Mormonism."

Yet when you check under the Mormon hood, there they still are. For example, Mormon belief in polygamy? Mortality (this side of death) - no; immortality - other side of death - yup! Polygamy for people Pre-Jesus coming a second time - well that answer is a bit more complex: Old Testament, yes and no; Book of Mormon times, no; Joseph Smith & other Mormon leaders, yes; post-manifesto on polygamy -- yes, but only on the sly side for about 20 years; then no; then, finally, when the Mormon Jesus returns, yes, per Lds "apostle" Bruce R. McConkie in his church-owned Deseret Book published book.

But of even greater import than the ever-oscillating Mormon doctrine of poly-wives is it's belief in poly-gods. Sorry, Christianity acknowledges one God. Judaism acknowledges one God. Islam acknowledges one God. Ancient religions like Zoroastrianism acknowledges one God. Even ecumenical reductionists like Bahais acknowledge one God.

But Mormonism? Their god was once a man who became a god of this world when a council of gods got together and appointed a man to be the god of this world...and, oh, by the way, you can become a god, too to compete with him for the glory, worship, power, adoration, and honor in the universe.

(And Mormons wonder why people believe that Mormons still embrace polygamy?)

From the article: What many people fail to understand is that Mormonism is a religion. It is not the same religion as Christianity, not even close, yet they say they're Christians. Take the time to study their Doctrine and Covenants and you'll find their beliefs are very different from historic, orthodox Christianity, especially when it comes to the essentials of the faith...No doubt some Beck fans will be annoyed that I'm "attacking" their hero. I hope you're annoyed enough to research Mormonism (links below) and to go and look at Scripture to see if what I'm saying here is true.

This is a highly linked article. So check out the links under "recommended reading" and read for yourself the links to various Mormon beliefs @ the end of the article.

1 posted on 09/06/2011 8:15:18 AM PDT by Colofornian
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From the article: Why do evangelical leaders choose to team up with a Mormon? More specifically why did historian David Barton of Wall Builders, Attorney Mat Staver of Liberty Counsel, Mike Evans of Jerusalem Prayer Team, and Pastor John Hagee join Glenn at the Restoring Courage rally? … I have a challenge for David Barton: Read Glenn's book The Seven Wonders That Will Change Your Life co-authored with Dr. Keith Ablow. In the book he lays out his "pure personal truth." (In part 2 I'll shed light on Glenn's view of "truth.")

Well, David Barton’s gone off the deep end of discernment.

From the article: As a matter of fact, the tour company he [Beck] recommended to those attending his big shindig is owned by Mormons. Jack Kinsella went to the Israel event and claims this is something he concealed. In a piece he wrote Stolen Blessings: The LDS Connection he says LDS Travel is "identical in every respect to Voyager Travel, except that LDS Travel makes it clear that it is a Latter Days Saints Church operation." Jack was irked that sincere Christians that took Glenn's advice to use Voyager Travel inadvertently contributed to the advancement of Mormonism.

So, Beck’s shindig in Jerusalem is coordinated by an Lds travel agency that disguised itself as “Voyager Travel” for non-Mormon travelers. Yet they are an Lds agency. An informed decision would have allowed Christians signing up for this to discern if they wanted to give $ to an agency that would turn around and give 10% of its profits to the Mormon church (they tithe on all profits). But no.

Apparently Beck wants the world to think of him as a Christian but doesn’t want the world to think of the travel agencies he uses as “Mormon.” Hmmm…

2 posted on 09/06/2011 8:16:08 AM PDT by Colofornian
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Why the attacks on Beck and Mormonism? He is a threat to the PTB. I would like to know from those claiming that Mormonism and Christianity are two different religions, prove who wrote or edited your holy scripture. The only difference between the two is that one religion is older. Catholicism, Protestantism, Evangelism, and Mormonism are all religions based upon belief in writings by others that CANNOT BE PROVEN.

Secondly, where in the Bible does it condemn polygamy? If the NT does so, then it contradicts the OT, which means God contradicts himself, which means he is not God.

4 posted on 09/06/2011 8:22:15 AM PDT by runninglips (Republicans = 99 lb weaklings of politics.)
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mormonISM is not Christianity.

Joseph Smith, the founder of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints taught,

“We have imagined and supposed that God was God from all eternity. I will refute that idea, and take away the veil, so that you may see. These are incomprehensible ideas to some, but they are simple. It is the first principle of the Gospel to know for a certainty the Character of God, and to know that we may converse with him as one man converses with another, and that he was once a man like us” (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p.345; also cited in Gospel Principles, p.305).

5 posted on 09/06/2011 8:23:31 AM PDT by svcw (iphone 5 release date late October - rats)
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9 posted on 09/06/2011 8:25:47 AM PDT by Bigun ("The most fearsome words in the English language are I'm from the government and I'm here to help!")
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Get off this Mormon kick.

I’ll believe and follow a Mormon as a leader.

I’ll never believe or follow a Muslim.

I no longer have any respect for them, for their “leaders”, or their “prophet”.


11 posted on 09/06/2011 8:27:55 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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As a lifelong, evangelical Christian I can state unequivocally that I believe Glenn Beck does good work and that I admire him for it. However, his Mormon religion is what Christians consider false because it contradicts the bible and offers what I consider ridiculous explanations of God, Jesus and other serious spiritual faith issues. His claim to Christianity is definitely on very shaky ground but I haven’t noticed Glenn Beck pushing his Mormon religion on his audience. Although I don’t consider this article an ‘attack’ on Glenn Beck - and it definitely is informative - as a Christian that has always found the LDS organization based on false teachings, I can applaud Beck for what he does without adopting the man’s religion, and I have absolutely no intention of doing so. Should Glenn Beck begin to proselytize for Mormonism he’ll lose me and most of his audience, fast. I hope that doesn’t happen. I also hope that Glenn Beck will come to know the God and Jesus of the bible, obey the Gospel and be saved, something his ersatz religion cannot do.


25 posted on 09/06/2011 8:38:52 AM PDT by Jim Scott ( "Game On!" - Sarah Palin)
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If you have to play My God’s better than your God. You have proved your opinion is worthless in the first sentence. No further reading required.


31 posted on 09/06/2011 8:41:26 AM PDT by Steamburg (The contents of your wallet is the only language Politicians understand.)
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I think Beck is a Christian and also believe he does not understand Mormon theology; and and the Mormon leadership are in no hurry to educate him on it. If they did, he wouldn’t remain a member for long.


63 posted on 09/06/2011 9:03:10 AM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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Now you have hurt my feelings!


72 posted on 09/06/2011 9:22:39 AM PDT by Utah Binger (Southern Utah where INVITED Freepers will meet again next summer. Jim Robinson Too)
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Get a life - all of you. On both sides of this issue.

Concentrate on your own faith walk - and that reminds me - get off your fat butt and go for a walk - you’ll feel better. And while you’re walking, chant this out loud: “ANY pubbie is better for the country than O’Bama. ANY.”


78 posted on 09/06/2011 9:36:54 AM PDT by QBFimi (When gunpowder speaks, beasts listen.)
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"We're so misunderstood." "So many 'myths' FACTS out there about Mormonism."

And MORMONism, Inc. supplies them all!

105 posted on 09/06/2011 10:55:31 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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And MORMONism, Inc. supplies them all!

Even if we source the HATED Tanners; the ultimate resource is still MORMON supplied data.

106 posted on 09/06/2011 10:58:23 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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single issue poster alert.


116 posted on 09/06/2011 11:08:45 AM PDT by Invincibly Ignorant
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I came across his show . There was not much on the radio. So I was listening to the "best of Glenn Beck" on Sunday. He literally spoke that he was a Christian and if you do not believe Mormons are Christians then you do not have to listen to him. That is when I took his advice. He was having a fit about it. When he separated his beliefs it was different to accept political view. Now he challenges people.

If you can say this in the personal pronoun and mean it with all your heart 1John 4 then you are a genuine Christ:

. 1 John 4 Testing the Spirits

 1 Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world. 2 By this you know the Spirit of God: every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God; 3 and every spirit that does not confess Jesus is not from God; this is the spirit of the antichrist, of which you have heard that it is coming, and now it is already in the world. 4 You are from God, little children, and have overcome them; because greater is He who is in you than he who is in the world. 5 They are from the world; therefore they speak as from the world, and the world listens to them. 6 We are from God; he who knows God listens to us; he who is not from God does not listen to us. By this we know the spirit of truth and the spirit of error. God Is Love  7 Beloved, let us love one another, for love is from God; and everyone who loves is [a]born of God and knows God. 8 The one who does not love does not know God, for God is love. 9 By this the love of God was manifested [b]in us, that God has sent His [c]only begotten Son into the world so that we might live through Him. 10 In this is love, not that we loved God, but that He loved us and sent His Son to be the propitiation for our sins. 11 Beloved, if God so loved us, we also ought to love one another. 12 No one has seen God at any time; if we love one another, God abides in us, and His love is perfected in us. 13 By this we know that we abide in Him and He in us, because He has given us of His Spirit. 14 We have seen and testify that the Father has sent the Son to be the Savior of the world.  15 Whoever confesses that Jesus is the Son of God, God abides in him, and he in God. 16 We have come to know and have believed the love which God has [d]for us. God is love, and the one who abides in love abides in God, and God abides in him. 17 By this, love is perfected with us, so that we may have confidence in the day of judgment; because as He is, so also are we in this world. 18 There is no fear in love; but perfect love casts out fear, because fear [e]involves punishment, and the one who fears is not perfected in love. 19 We love, because He first loved us. 20 If someone says, “I love God,” and hates his brother, he is a liar; for the one who does not love his brother whom he has seen, cannot love God whom he has not seen. 21 And this commandment we have from Him, that the one who loves God should love his brother also.

120 posted on 09/06/2011 11:12:14 AM PDT by johngrace (1 John 4)
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Hi Colofornian- on post 120 I meant Christian were I put Christ. Thanks


135 posted on 09/06/2011 11:27:34 AM PDT by johngrace (1 John 4)
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At the rally he choked up with emotion and said in an accusatory tone that only Christians question his salvation.
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Well only Christians would care...

His Mormon and Moslem and other non.believing friends dont care if he goes to Hell...


563 posted on 09/07/2011 8:26:31 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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At the rally he choked up with emotion and said in an accusatory tone that only Christians question his salvation.
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But in your hearts set apart Christ as Lord. Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have. But do this with gentleness and respect, 1 Peter 3:15

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm

appears that Beck has no answers

or no hope to speak of...

and tears of rage instead of gentleness and respect...

all was done correctly by the Christians who questioned...


567 posted on 09/07/2011 8:29:33 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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From the article: When it comes to fighting the culture war Mormons put their money where their mouth is, whereas a large number of evangelicals and Catholics are more prone to let sleeping dogs lie.

This was true of Prop 8 in CA -- and a previous proposition in CA along the same lines. The Mormons were great on those props in putting out info & gathering $. Beyond that, I see no evidence of Mormons putting more $ into the culture war than Evangelicals & Catholics.

In fact, in areas of abortion, Evangelicals & Catholics are light years ahead of Mormons in putting their $ where their mouth is.

In comparison, the official Mormon stance on abortion includes the exception if the Mormon god says it's "OK," then it's "OK." And how does a girl/woman find that out? She prays about it. And then if the answer is "yes," she goes and dismembers the little would-be Mormon one.

627 posted on 09/07/2011 12:49:55 PM PDT by Colofornian
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David Barton stunned the audience when he went on Live TV and told host Randy Robison (here) that just because Beck attends a Mormon church “doesn’t say anything about his personal relationship with Jesus.”
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Actually it says everything

It says that Beck doesnt have a personal relationship with the LORD Jesus Christ of the Christian Bible...

If Beck knew Jesus he wouldnt be a Mormon...


659 posted on 09/07/2011 2:07:22 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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Barton worries that “a lot of people judge Glenn on the label, he’s Mormon.”
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AH no

Beck himself keeps broadcasting on live TV and radio, “Im a Mormon”

If he doesnt want anyone to know why is he telling millions ???

If he wanted people to think he was a Christian and if he was a christian, he would be professing The LORD Jesus Christ...

But Beck doesnt

insteade he says that he is a Mormon...

OK Mormon or Christian

Beck chose mormon...


660 posted on 09/07/2011 2:11:51 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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