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To: Jvette; smvoice; Avalon Hussar; Judith Anne
"then she becomes responsible for the HUMAN Jesus and not the GOD Jesus Christ.”

There goes Ephesus and Chalcedon. We have two persons here. But there is one Christ, not two.

My mother did not provide the y chromosome, but she is the mother of all of me. Mary did not provide the Divine nature, but she is the mother of all of Jesus who IS Jesus Christ,who IS God the Son of God. There is no part of God the Son of God which is not Jesus and no part of Jesus which is not God the Son of God. He is one person.

Or so we hold. Remember, the Marian stuff all arose out of a Christological controversy.

1,171 posted on 09/06/2011 11:35:25 AM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: Mad Dawg

Two Christs? Hardly. He was/is 100% man. He was/is 100% God.


1,173 posted on 09/06/2011 11:37:40 AM PDT by smvoice (The Cross was NOT God's Plan B.)
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To: Mad Dawg
There goes Ephesus and Chalcedon. We have two persons here. But there is one Christ, not two.

Just for the record here, I understand the concept here of the Hypostatic Union of Christ's divinity and humanity but I don't understand the actual mechanics involved beyond understanding that just as there are "Three Hypostases in one Ousia" there is likewise a Hypostasis of divinity and humanity in Christ's being.

That being said, carry on!

1,180 posted on 09/06/2011 11:44:00 AM PDT by Avalon Hussar
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To: Mad Dawg
but she is the mother of all of Jesus who IS Jesus Christ,who IS God the Son of God.

Jesus was the manifestation of God in the flesh...Jesus was the manifestation of God in a fleshy appearance in the OT being called the angel of the Lord...

Was Jesus the Son of God from eternity, or the physical manifestation of the Trinity???

Kind of difficult to call Mary the Mother of the God who existed from eternity...We see in the scriptures that the flesh of Jesus died...I can't see where God died...

Many of us non Catholics believe we have a body, a soul and a spirit as the scripture tells us...

Our soul is alive forever...Our body dies and falls off the soul but the soul never dies...

I believe the same happened to Jesus...Just as Paul tells us that at the redemption, bodies will come out of the grave and be reunited with their souls that have risen previously...

The Catholic version sounds good if one wants to venerate Mary but it's no where to be found in scripture...

1,223 posted on 09/06/2011 12:43:48 PM PDT by Iscool (You mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailerpark...)
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