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To: Mad Dawg
but she is the mother of all of Jesus who IS Jesus Christ,who IS God the Son of God.

Jesus was the manifestation of God in the flesh...Jesus was the manifestation of God in a fleshy appearance in the OT being called the angel of the Lord...

Was Jesus the Son of God from eternity, or the physical manifestation of the Trinity???

Kind of difficult to call Mary the Mother of the God who existed from eternity...We see in the scriptures that the flesh of Jesus died...I can't see where God died...

Many of us non Catholics believe we have a body, a soul and a spirit as the scripture tells us...

Our soul is alive forever...Our body dies and falls off the soul but the soul never dies...

I believe the same happened to Jesus...Just as Paul tells us that at the redemption, bodies will come out of the grave and be reunited with their souls that have risen previously...

The Catholic version sounds good if one wants to venerate Mary but it's no where to be found in scripture...

1,223 posted on 09/06/2011 12:43:48 PM PDT by Iscool (You mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailerpark...)
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To: Iscool; boatbums
Wowie! You really are out of the mainstream. I don't me that judgmentally, I just don't think I've ever met a Gnostic Docetist before. In our thinking, and I'm not really good on this, The Son of God has no beginning. But the Incarnation began at a specific instant. At that time The Son of God became Jesus. He was not the physical manifestation of the Trinity, he was the physical manifestation of one person of the Trinity, namely, God the Son. Jesus, "yielded up the Spirit" on the cross. But His body was resurrected, as ours will be. They will then be "spiritual bodies," as Paul says. But in our thinking that's still a human body. It's a resurrected human body. it's just not what Paul calls a "psychikon" body.

I pinged boatbums because she argues that the Trinity can be found in Scripture.

1,250 posted on 09/06/2011 2:35:58 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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