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My Faith: Rep. Keith Ellison (D-MN), from Catholic to Muslim
CNN ^ | 9/1/11 | Chris Welch

Posted on 09/02/2011 9:07:47 AM PDT by marshmallow

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To: Quix; metmom; Avalon Hussar; MarkBsnr; Judith Anne; Natural Law
Quix: Jesse DuPlantis is in a different category, to me. Jesse's a 1,000% more congruent with Scripture, with himself, with God's priorities etc.

Nice. So, I guess according to your wacko group, QUixos Jesse is true to scripture when he says

"As I stepped out of the chariot, everything I saw was so beautiful. I had always thought that when I went to heaven I would see only a city. But the first place I saw was Paradise; it hadn't been destroyed. Paradise is a big place, completely surrounding the Holy City. It is like being on another planet."

I saw Elohim, Jehovah God, Yahweh sitting on the Throne! But I saw His feet - only His feet. . . He is so big - you can’t describe Him in a dimension. His hand is huge! His body, the form of it, is sort of like energy, spirit. There’s a wall around the Throne, but the Throne is higher than the wall - that’s why you can see the Throne from every direction, from a distance. And that power, that energy-like smoke of God, covers all around the chair of the Throne itself."

"There was a cloud that looked like smoke going up from the Throne and I heard that massive sound, "whoosh! It was power like I’ve never experienced in my life. Then I saw God’s finger barely move and when it moved, an angel that was flying near Him was thrown up against a wall. Bam! It didn’t hurt the angel."

then Jesus starts to say how He is dreading the day when He has to send some of His creation to hell, so Jesse comes to Jesus's rescue! "I wanted to reach out and comfort Him, so I put my hand on the Lord. . .I could tell that Jesus was hurting."

"I didn’t know before how much He needed me to reach out to other people. I have always thought of how much I needed Him, not how much He needs me. . .He smiled at me and said, "I chose you. No one else wanted you, and I need you Jesse.

This was before Jesse comforted God and found out that scripture was not inspired on the same day he took the highway to h
1,041 posted on 09/06/2011 7:09:56 AM PDT by Cronos (www.forfiter.com)
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To: Quix; MarkBsnr; Judith Anne; Natural Law
Quixo -- All that we ask for is a shred of
—honesty
—objectivity
—insight
—candor
—integrity
—consistency
—solid Biblical understanding
—historical accuracy
—logical thought processes
♫ Hitchin' a ride, hitchin' a ride ♫

In your posts, yet we find none.

What is hilarious is that everyone sees your posts and realizes they contain as much sense as Obambi's speechs -- then whatever else you talk about, people realise that the opposite is true.

1,042 posted on 09/06/2011 7:10:48 AM PDT by Cronos (www.forfiter.com)
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To: Mad Dawg
>>So one COULD view the "reliance" on the catechism and the hermeneutic proposed by the Catholic Church as obedience to Scripture<<

Like the ascension of Mary for instance? Is that where they rely on scripture? Those “teachers” you rely on have given you scriptural proof of the ascension of Mary have they? I suppose they have given you scriptural proof of praying to those who have passed on rather then Jesus words that there is no other mediator but Him. I suppose they have specific passages that they use to show that it’s not just those who are living who should pray for each other.

1,043 posted on 09/06/2011 7:12:54 AM PDT by CynicalBear
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To: Avalon Hussar; Quix
Quix: Jesse DuPlantis is in a different category, to me. Jesse's a 1,000% more congruent with Scripture, with himself, with God's priorities etc.

Avalon Hussar )post 529): I'll agree that Benny Hinn and Jesse DuPlantis are wrong to teach what they've been teaching,

Good for you, Avalon.

1,044 posted on 09/06/2011 7:13:54 AM PDT by Cronos (www.forfiter.com)
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To: Quix
The cardinal rule for Quix's group's preathers is you have to close you eyes really, really, really hard such that your entire face is distorted, like those TV preachers do, for a prayer to actually be heard by God?


1,045 posted on 09/06/2011 7:16:30 AM PDT by Cronos (www.forfiter.com)
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To: Quix

Are Amiee Semple and Uncle Milty absurd?


1,046 posted on 09/06/2011 7:18:25 AM PDT by bronx2 (while Jesus is the Alpha /Omega He has given us rituals which you reject to obtain the graces as to)
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To: Quix; Mad Dawg; MarkBsnr; Judith Anne; Natural Law
The good thing about Quix's incoherent ramblings is that both lurkers and readers now know that his group thinks that Jesse the con-man Duplantis is 1000% preaching from scripture and that Quix's alien-loving group is so way out there from Christianity it is no reason that some were kicked out from the conservative WELS church

In fact, the presence of Quix's group and its typical incoherent ramblings makes anything they support instantly not regarded as sane!

good job QUixo! your posts are pushing people away from your group's philosophies!

1,047 posted on 09/06/2011 7:20:21 AM PDT by Cronos (www.forfiter.com)
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To: Cronos; Quix
But if a poster responds with his alien believe and other stuff, I like to point out the utter fallacies in his point of view.

I have no problem with attacking a false doctrine, but my problem stems from the total disregard for facts when it comes to Quix and his views on "aliens".

Anyone who's ever actually looked at what he has written and believes realizes that he thinks "aliens" are actually fallen angels masquerading as aliens, so where is the big doctrinal shocker here?

We know that the enemy is a deceiver and will do anything he can to discredit Christ and the Gospel, so why is it so hard for you and certain others to accept that these things we believe to be "aliens" are actually nothing more than a demon in disguise?

As I said, if there's a false doctrine here, then please point it out to me.

1,048 posted on 09/06/2011 7:21:31 AM PDT by Avalon Hussar
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To: MarkBsnr; boatbums; Mad Dawg
>> The argument started when CB tried to get us to believe that a 'generation' was 70 years, rather than 20-25 in those years.<<

There were approximately 70 (debate between 66 and 76) generations from Adam to Jesus. Apply your 20-25 years per generation and then add the 2011 years since Christ and try to convince any scholar that it’s been 3411- 3761 years since Adam.

On the other hand take the 70 year generation and apply it and ask any scholar about the roughly 6911 years since Adam. Either do your own Biblical genealogy study or study research what scholars have done to check the number of generations. It’s not difficult if your looking for truth.

1,049 posted on 09/06/2011 7:23:57 AM PDT by CynicalBear
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To: Quix; metmom; Mad Dawg; MarkBsnr; Judith Anne; Natural Law; Jvette; Avalon Hussar
And here's another great quote from Quixo about people who go and visit the other side:

I'm not greatly interested in arguing about whether such are authentic, Biblical, accurate etc.

interesting -- so when it comes to your group's alien philosophies, one shouldn't be interested in whether they are authentic or biblical!

1,050 posted on 09/06/2011 7:24:01 AM PDT by Cronos (www.forfiter.com)
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To: HossB86
I follow the Bible. Paul clearly states that we have a mediating and intercessory ministry. It's not a matter of semantics. Our being in Christ is not a matter of semantics. It's core.

The Roman Catholic Catechism TEACHES that Mary is a “Mediatrix”

And we teach that we, all of us, are mediators.

the Scriptures state unequivocally that there is but one intercessor between God and man br>Just a few verses after they state that we have an intercessory role.

The Catholic Church has no faulty teaching, though it has some pretty badly expressed teaching.

1,051 posted on 09/06/2011 7:24:24 AM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: Quix
And here's another great quote :

Christ said lots of things that were NOT EnScripturated and not intended to be—2,000 years ago AND SINCE.

interesting isn't it -- and quite contradictory to other posts

1,052 posted on 09/06/2011 7:25:03 AM PDT by Cronos (www.forfiter.com)
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To: Avalon Hussar
if there's a false doctrine here

Sure -- how about Jesse's point that God does not control when you live or die, but you do.

1,053 posted on 09/06/2011 7:26:37 AM PDT by Cronos (www.forfiter.com)
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To: Avalon Hussar
if there's a false doctrine here

Sure -- how about Jesse's point that God does not control when you live or die, but you do.

Do you think that is Jesse DuPlantis is in a different category, to me. Jesse's a 1,000% more congruent with Scripture, with himself, with God's priorities etc.?

1,054 posted on 09/06/2011 7:27:34 AM PDT by Cronos (www.forfiter.com)
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To: Avalon Hussar
Oh and you can go to This freerepublic article to see more of that group's false doctrines. Wear waders -- it gets murky
1,055 posted on 09/06/2011 7:28:20 AM PDT by Cronos (www.forfiter.com)
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To: metmom
Satan's first recorded tactic is to challenge God's word.

....and when successful replace it with something else. Once an individual doubts the absolute authority of Gods Word....he is open for anything else to quickly rush in and you can be assured it will...always. So if an individual is unfamilar with the truths of Gods word he will indeed fall....just a matter of time...especially with the degree of deception there is today...and it's fast on the move across our nation and this world.

"Thy Word have I hid in my heart that I might not sin against thee"

1,056 posted on 09/06/2011 7:28:22 AM PDT by caww
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To: Avalon Hussar

And you can ask him about his group’s 9/11 conspiracy theory (hint, it blames us the US for our own “hurts”)


1,057 posted on 09/06/2011 7:29:44 AM PDT by Cronos (www.forfiter.com)
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To: Quix; Mad Dawg; MarkBsnr
Quix: you might have a LITTLE competition for dazzling brilliance.

For you, Quixo:


1,058 posted on 09/06/2011 7:32:58 AM PDT by Cronos (www.forfiter.com)
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To: Quix; Mad Dawg; MarkBsnr; Natural Law; Judith Anne
quix: It comes across much MORE a

For you quix


1,059 posted on 09/06/2011 7:36:10 AM PDT by Cronos (www.forfiter.com)
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To: Natural Law; Religion Moderator
Your failure to comprehend aside, nothing I posted was a lie.

Nice way to say that I'm too stupid to read. Unlike in your Church though, I was actually taught to read the founding documents from an early age so I have no problem at all understanding when you're caught in a lie.

The RCC teaches that Mary is Co-Redemptrix. This has been proven time and again. It is not a Biblical stance. If you say otherwise, please cite chapter and verse where Mary was crucified for our sins, thereby providing for our Redemption back to the Father. You cannot do so and therefore have been caught in a lie.

1,060 posted on 09/06/2011 7:37:40 AM PDT by Avalon Hussar
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