[CynicalBear]

>>So one COULD view the "reliance" on the catechism and the hermeneutic proposed by the Catholic Church as obedience to Scripture<<

Like the ascension of Mary for instance? Is that where they rely on scripture? Those “teachers” you rely on have given you scriptural proof of the ascension of Mary have they? I suppose they have given you scriptural proof of praying to those who have passed on rather then Jesus words that there is no other mediator but Him. I suppose they have specific passages that they use to show that it’s not just those who are living who should pray for each other.

[Mad Dawg]

Go get proof that any orthodox Catholic teaching deals with "the ascension of Mary" while I assemble my attempt at a rebuttal.

In other words, if you want to take cheap shots, do your homework first. The phrase you want is the "assumption, NOT the "ascension" which is theologically a very different thing.

Also, I have already dealt with the matter of the intercession of the saints (including you and me.) The chapter of Timothy which speaks on the one mediator starts with an statement that we all should mediate and intercede. And Paul's discussion of our being 'in Christ' suffices to show that neither we nor Mary are intercessors or mediators on our own but because we are "in Christ."

[Mad Dawg]

Besides, did you trouble to understand my argument before you attacked it? Is there anyobody in your churches who acknowledges that only some are called to teach? If some are not called to teach and others are, then some are called to be students, pupils. That follows from Scripture.

And then it would be the teachers who would provide the hermeneutic.