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To: SpringtoLiberty
Jesus never married.

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You may be right but there is evidence that could lead one to believe He was married, certainly there is evidence that the Templars believed He was married.

I'm sure many of you will throw tomatoes at me but, I personally lean toward His being married. Only married men were allowed to be Rabi's in Jesus’ time. Then, there was the marriage feast that His mother seemed to be in charge of. Why would she concern Jesus with her management of the wedding unless He was part of it.

It doesn't make any difference to me one way or another except I think He could understand what I go through much better having been married.

Who knows?

14 posted on 09/01/2011 9:35:04 AM PDT by JAKraig (Surely my religion is at least as good as yours)
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To: JAKraig; colorcountry; Colofornian; Elsie; svcw; Zakeet; Tennessee Nana; aMorePerfectUnion; ...
You may be right but there is evidence that could lead one to believe He was married, certainly there is evidence that the Templars believed He was married.

The slandering, sliming and libeling of the REAL Jesus and/or true Christianity has begun on FR in defense of the false prophet Joseph Smith and his book of fiction.

And mormons demand that they be recognized as "Christians"!

Mormonism not only demands a "seat at the Christian banquet table", it demands to set the menu, control the guest list, collect the funds from the ticket sales, and choose its own non-Biblical unedited and false message from its chosen speaker, all the while whining about being persecuted.

17 posted on 09/01/2011 9:45:41 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Obama has made it official now..a white is only 3/5s a person in the US. Diversity wins.)
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To: JAKraig

J, let’s take your premise a few more steps down the road shall we?

If I recall, you’re married to a mormon, as am I, so we should both be able to view the following questions with some degree of background and knowledge.

Seeing as how I was sealed to my wife in the Wash. D.C. temple, and taught that it was an eternal covenant essential to my eternal salvation, that it would permit me and my wife to dwell in the presence of god, it was incumbent upon me to undertake the ritual and swear to the oaths given to me.

How then, in mormonism, could Jesus be in the celestial kingdom, residing with the mormon god if He did not take out these oaths and submit to the temple ritual and swear the oaths?

Where, in any of the texts, written or oral histories, does one find any reference to a temple of this kind?

Where does one find any reference to Jesus participating in any of these rituals?

Jesus was referred to as rabbi, but he wasn’t an “official” Rabbi as defined today. The word rabbi originates from the Hebrew meaning “teacher.”

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Judaism/Rabbis.html


18 posted on 09/01/2011 9:57:04 AM PDT by SZonian (July 27, 2010. Life begins anew.)
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To: JAKraig

I know. Jesus was not married.


19 posted on 09/01/2011 10:05:22 AM PDT by svcw
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To: JAKraig

Many of Jesus’ miracles had practical consequences beside His exertion of miraculous power. The man born blind to whom Jesus gave sight was expelled from the Temple for thanking Him.

At the wedding feast the head steward sampled unknowingly the miraculous wine, then summoned the bridegroom and criticized him for saving the best wine for when the guests were too inebriated to appreciate its quality.

By the way, how does LDS explain the wedding feast with all its references to the consumption of alcohol? My Biblethumping coworkers said Jesus turned water into grape juice! I countered if drinking wine is so bad, why isn’t it written that Jesus said to His mother, “I will not contribute to an atmosphere of drunkeness at this feast. Let them drink water or I’ll change it into fruit juice for them.”

And now that I think of it, how did Mary His mother know in the first place that her Son had such powers that she had only to say, “Son, they have no wine.”?

How, indeed? Thoughts?


23 posted on 09/01/2011 1:53:52 PM PDT by elcid1970 ("Deport all Muslims. Nuke Mecca now. Death to Islam means freedom for all mankind.")
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To: JAKraig
Jesus never married. . . . [C]ertainly there is evidence that the Templars believed He was married.

To my knowledge, it's not official LDS doctrine, but several LDS Apostles believed Jesus was married (and polygamous).

In Journal of Discourses 2:81, LDS Apostle Orson Hyde said that "Mary and Martha, and other women that followed [Jesus]" were his wives. In discussing the wedding in Cana, Hyde also stated:

Now there was actually a marriage; and if Jesus was not the bridegroom on that occasion, please tell who was. If any man can show this, and prove that it was not the Savior of the world, then I will acknowledge I am in error. We say it was Jesus Christ who was married, to be brought into the relation whereby he could see his seed, before he was crucified.

Journal of Discourses 2:82.

Hyde later stated:

I discover that some of the Eastern papers represent me as a great blasphemer, because I said, in my lecture on Marriage, at our last Conference, that Jesus Christ was married at Cana of Galilee, that Mary, Martha, and others were his wives, and that he begat children.

Journal of Discourses 2:210.

In his book, The Seer (page 159), LDS Apostle Orson Pratt stated:

One thing is certain, that there were several holy women that greatly loved Jesus -- such as Mary, and Martha her sister, and Mary Magdalene; and Jesus greatly loved them, and associated with them much; and when He arose from the dead, instead of showing Himself to His chosen witnesses, the Apostles, He appeared first to these women, or at least to one of them -- namely, Mary Magdalene. Now it would be natural for a husband in the resurrection to appear first to his own dear wives, and afterwards show himself to his other friends. If all the acts of Jesus were written, we no doubt should learn that these beloved women were His wives.

Apostle Wilford Woodruff and First Presidency Member Joseph F. Smith believed that Jesus was married to at least Mary and Martha. The source is Wilford Woodruff's Journal 8:187.

All of these sources are LDS sources and not 'anti-Mormon" sources. LDS members have the same rights to their beliefs as any other members of Free Republic.

When The DaVinci Code was popular, I believe the LDS church stated that leaders in the church had stated their own opinions as to Jesus's marriage(s), but that it was not church doctrine.

24 posted on 09/01/2011 2:02:14 PM PDT by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it, Fred.)
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To: JAKraig

“You may be right but there is evidence that could lead one to believe He was married”

What are you smokin’?

There is no evidence that Jesus Christ married. That is a cultic tale.


28 posted on 09/01/2011 3:30:17 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (You know, 99.99999965% of the lawyers give all of them a bad name)
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To: JAKraig
You may be right but there is evidence that could lead one to believe He was married, certainly there is evidence that the Templars believed He was married.

Yeah; if you spin it just right!

42 posted on 09/01/2011 7:05:12 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: JAKraig

Jesus had several brothers. His brother James was one of his 12 and there is mention of many women (wives) that traveled with them during His ministry on earth.


48 posted on 09/01/2011 7:18:01 PM PDT by SpringtoLiberty (Liberty is on the march!)
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To: JAKraig
Orson Pratt - Jesus a polygamist, God the Father had a plurality of wives. "We have also proved that both God the Father and our Lord Jesus Christ inherit their wives in eternity as well as in time." The Seer, p. 172 (1853)

Can anyone find this supposed "proof" that Pratt claims? That both "god" and "jesus" were married on earth and are currently married and practicing polygamy in heaven?

Come on J, you posited an opinion, folks offered rejoinders. Are you gonna come out and play or just drive by posting heresy?

53 posted on 09/02/2011 6:54:39 AM PDT by SZonian (July 27, 2010. Life begins anew.)
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