This was expected. The Episcopal Church also has the same division as orthodox congregations seek leadership from those who share the same Biblically correct stance. How sad that the Presbyterians, who once were the vanguard of orthodoxy, have gone the way of the liberal and heretical Episcopal Church.
Good for Mexico. Even though that nation is in turmoil at least its Presbyterians know the difference between obeying God’s word and downright perversion.
Shoving one’s pee-pee up another’s poo-poo is not only an unnatural and unsanitary way of getting one’s sexual jollies it is against God’s will and gets the participants a one way ticket to hell.
And yet out Constitution is pro church and theirs is anti.
Let’s all remember that the Ubited States Constitution defends the freedom of the church as an unmitigated good against government tyranny and lawlessness.
“Congress shall make no law having to do with a church or other place of worship , or prohibiting the free exercise thereof”.
To have freedom of secular speech to inluence laws, but not freedom of religious speech to effect laws-—makes the Constitution unbalanced towards the influence of the press over the churches and non-secular worldviews.
Funny thing is that the people who push for science and against religion don’t understand the limits of science or Reason and don’t understand that religious and moral thinking are essential to a free society, being that “rights” themselves are not physical, but are moral/conceptual.
And for people who claim that “science” and Reason should be exhalted as gods, they have little skepticism for the claims of science or rationalism!
The Mexicans are refusing to be part of this apostate church. Good for them.
U.S churches are willing to sell souls to the highest bidder. "It's the collection plate, stupid."
We need someone in the WH to straighten all this out and get them back in the closet and STFU. I’m thinking Palin can do it.
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There were no words of soul-searching, no Biblical references, no prayerful analysis, no misgivings, no thoughts of reviewing its pro-homosexual stand, no signs of conscience......just a hard-core Marxist "social justice"/"re-distribute the wealth" platitude in reaction to an integral part of the denomination's "very-being" permanently breaking away.
The effete clergy in the U.S. Presbyterian Church are now not only apostates but they have actually become collared social workers and assistants for the amoral State, not for the real God from whom we get our rights and divine directions for morality.....and for helping the needy.
The Prebyterian Church's sick promotion of the homosexual lifestyle apparantly trumps all reason and biblical faith.
Leni
The Presbyterian Church USA doesn’t have pastors standing there on Sunday mornings speaking in favor of gay marriage or abortion.
It’s a hidden agenda. On Sunday mornings, the pastor talks about the poor, etc.
The elderly widow who has gone to that church her entire life is probably clueless to the real agenda of the Presbyterian Church USA.
I even know conservatives who belong to a huge Presbyterian Church USA in the suburbs. I tried to tell them what’s going on in that denomination, but so far they still attend.
Democrats, for the most part, support that agenda, but they aren’t big church goers.
The church’s days are numbered, and it might eventually become a gay social meeting place.
They do have a lot of money, though, that is constantly bequeathed to them.
There has been a very concerted and highly organized effort by gay groups to subvert and take over the PCUSA. Sadly, they are close to complete success.
You don’t have to be a scholar of religious demographics to know that membership losses at PCUSA will accelerate, and then the denomination will largely be cast aside as an irrelevant husk.
For those viewing trends through the lens of “he who blesses you will I bless, and he who curses you will I curse,” the recent troubles are perhaps the result of the PCUSA’s anti-Semitic, anti-Israel resolutions (passed overwhelmingly I might add) of 2004. They have since tried to correct this error by stating that the Jews should be excluded from any efforts to share the blessings of salvation in Messiah Jesus.
Last year when I was in the Taos New Mexico area I was surprised at how many little towns had Presbyterian churches.
As a lifelong atheist, I don't have to subscribe to any particular doctrine to know this.
It’s interesting, too, that when the conservative Episcopalian parishes broke with the ECUSA after it ordained the gay bishop, they joined with a diocese in Africa. Guess we DO have a few things to learn from the “Third World.”