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Saint Bartholomew's Day Massacre
History.Com ^ | Aug 24 | Unknown

Posted on 08/21/2011 4:55:48 AM PDT by HarleyD

King Charles IX of France, under the sway of his mother, Catherine de Medici, orders the assassination of Huguenot Protestant leaders in Paris, setting off an orgy of killing that results in the massacre of tens of thousands of Huguenots all across France.

Two days earlier, Catherine had ordered the murder of Admiral Gaspard de Coligny, a Huguenot leader whom she felt was leading her son into war with Spain. However, Coligny was only wounded, and Charles promised to investigate the assassination in order to placate the angry Huguenots. Catherine then convinced the young king that the Huguenots were on the brink of rebellion, and he authorized the murder of their leaders by the Catholic authorities. Most of these Huguenots were in Paris at the time, celebrating the marriage of their leader, Henry of Navarre, to the king's sister, Margaret.

A list of those to be killed was drawn up, headed by Coligny, who was brutally beaten and thrown out of his bedroom window just before dawn on August 24. Once the killing started, mobs of Catholic Parisians, apparently overcome with bloodlust, began a general massacre of Huguenots. Charles issued a royal order on August 25 to halt the killing, but his pleas went unheeded as the massacres spread. Mass slaughters continued into October, reaching the provinces of Rouen, Lyon, Bourges, Bourdeaux, and Orleans. An estimated 3,000 French Protestants were killed in Paris, and as many as 70,000 in all of France. The massacre of Saint Bartholomew's Day marked the resumption of religious civil war in France.


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To: Cincinna
As I said cincinna, this was a historical article, not a religious one so please do not make it one

Historically speaking the Huguenots DID slap the hand of the government that had tolerated it, just as the Moslems do in France today

Historically speaking they did the attack the majority first and destroy Churches -- the first salvo so to speak

Historically speaking they did collaborate with the enemies of the nation and foment civil war

Do read up on the history of this time in France and the civil war that this caused. The Huguenots were one side of the civil war -- even worse, they collaborated with the ancienne enemy (England). They were hence traitors to the nation as well as fomenters of civil war.

They lost and got massacred, that's what happened in all times right up to the present.

This was a socio-political conflict with a religious dimension and this article specifically talks about the historical aspect (it IS from the History channel), so do look at this aspect.

you are making it about religion TODAY when I also CLEARLY stated in my post number 30

the various actions of those H's have no influence on the descendents of these folks -- just as no doubt most of us have the blood of various conquerors, defeated, tyrants, saints, sinners etc.

Thirdly, the actions of the H descendants in Prussia have no relation to the morality of descendants in America today -- these were 5th/6th or more distant cousins 4 - 5 times removed.

41 posted on 08/22/2011 7:28:38 PM PDT by Cronos ( W Szczebrzeszynie chrzaszcz brzmi w trzcinie I Szczebrzeszyn z tego slynie.)
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To: Cronos

No thanks. I despise people trashing other’s religious beliefs.


42 posted on 08/22/2011 7:31:52 PM PDT by Cincinna ( *** NOBAMA 2012 ***)
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To: Cincinna

where exactly in this thread have I thrashed your or anyone else’s “religious beliefs” — please point out where


43 posted on 08/22/2011 7:41:46 PM PDT by Cronos ( W Szczebrzeszynie chrzaszcz brzmi w trzcinie I Szczebrzeszyn z tego slynie.)
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To: Cincinna
where exactly in this thread have I thrashed your or anyone else's "religious beliefs" -- please point out where

In post 37 you said that "it's that darned ... work ethic"

Now, in post 39 I proved that the entire "work ethic" attributed to one religious group is a myth.

Go and check out or compare Holland to Belgian Flanders -- both are essentially the same people and speak the same language, yet the Flemish are Catholic and in fact had and has more of this "work ethic" than the Dutch -- so perhaps this is actually a "Germanic work ethic thing"?

Even in Germany, the economically advanced German Rhineland is more Catholic than non-Catholic -- doesn't that prove that your statement about some supposed religious based work ethic is a myth?

44 posted on 08/22/2011 7:45:14 PM PDT by Cronos ( W Szczebrzeszynie chrzaszcz brzmi w trzcinie I Szczebrzeszyn z tego slynie.)
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To: Cincinna
where exactly in this thread have I thrashed your or anyone else's "religious beliefs" -- please point out where

In post 37 you said that "it's that darned ... work ethic"

Now, in post 39 I proved that the entire "work ethic" attributed to one religious group is a myth.

how exactly is this "thrashing other people's religious beliefs"? Are you saying that your statement about this myth of a religious group's work ethic is a "religious belief"?

45 posted on 08/22/2011 7:46:18 PM PDT by Cronos ( W Szczebrzeszynie chrzaszcz brzmi w trzcinie I Szczebrzeszyn z tego slynie.)
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To: Cronos
"Fourth step, they collaborated with the enemy of the state (a competing power)>"

Not just one competing power (the English) but with the Ottoman Turks as well. They apparently found the Muslims preferable bed partners to the Catholic Christians.

46 posted on 08/22/2011 9:30:12 PM PDT by Natural Law (For God so loved the world He did not send a book.)
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To: Natural Law; Cincinna
True. After all the Turks did talk of an alliance against the common enemy -- the last bulwark of Christianity

French Huguenots were in contact with the Moriscos in plans against Spain in the 1570s with plans for the Moslem-Huguenot alliance to undo the Reconquista and return Spain to Moslem rule

Strangely enough the same was repeated in Eastern Europe where the calvinists of Hungary actually fought on the side of the Turks at the Seige of Vienna in 1683.

Can you imagine that? if the Turks had won, then Western Europe would have been way open to them. Instead, thank God they were defeated by Catholic Austria with Poland. This started the Ottoman decline

47 posted on 08/22/2011 11:09:19 PM PDT by Cronos ( W Szczebrzeszynie chrzaszcz brzmi w trzcinie I Szczebrzeszyn z tego slynie.)
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To: daniel1212
The fact is by not allowing such things as any sanctioned prayer by teachers...

Given today's crop of "educators", it wouldn't be prayers the children would hear, it would be incantations, enchantments and spells.

Many evangelicals like to say that all Hell broke loose following the abolition of public prayers in the class rooms in the early 1960s, I submit that it was the removal of McGuffey Readers from the classroom.

48 posted on 08/23/2011 4:43:59 AM PDT by The Theophilus (Obama's Key to win 2012: Ban Haloperidol)
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To: Alex Murphy; Dutchboy88
Hey, we have (some) Catholics right here on FR who have called for a new Inquisition, and called for the destruction of our Constitutional Republic so as to replace it with a Catholic Monarchy. And they do so while claiming to be "conservatives" and that Protestants are the real "liberals".

FWIW, I recall a thread a couple years ago about Evangelical Christians being persecuted in Russia and EO posters were adamant in their defense of state controlled churches and argued since these Evangelical Christians weren't licensed they should be stopped from preaching The Gospel. Nothing has changed except the faces and technology.

49 posted on 08/23/2011 6:23:33 AM PDT by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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To: HarleyD

Makes me wonder what happens when the French get truly fed up with their Muslim immigrants.


50 posted on 08/23/2011 6:31:53 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (When you've only heard lies your entire life, the truth sounds insane.)
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To: PapaBear3625

lets hope the Moslems never reach the level of infamy that the Huguenots did.


51 posted on 08/24/2011 1:42:45 AM PDT by Cronos ( W Szczebrzeszynie chrzaszcz brzmi w trzcinie I Szczebrzeszyn z tego slynie.)
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To: The Theophilus

That also is true, but is a symptom of a spiritual declension, and thus in-deed things have changed. http://peacebyjesus.witnesstoday.org/CauseEffect.html
http://www.astorehouseofknowledge.info/Education_in_the_United_States#Quality_of_modern_American_education


52 posted on 08/24/2011 6:27:15 PM PDT by daniel1212 ( "Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out," Acts 3:19)
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