Posted on 08/11/2011 4:29:28 AM PDT by Colofornian
...we pretty much know what kind of re-election campaign Barack Obama is going to wage: A relentlessly negative one, which...will focus almost exclusively on making the challenger seem unacceptable rather than defending the sitting presidents accomplishments. Thanks to Ben Smith at Politico, we also know roughly how the White House plans to destroy Mitt Romney,...By attacking him as inauthentic, unprincipled and, in a word used repeatedly by Obamas advisers in about a dozen interviews, weird.
Weird how, you ask? Heres Smith:
The character attacks on Romney will focus on what critics view as a makeover, both personal (skinny jeans) and political (abortion) Democrats also plan to amplify what Obama strategists described as the weirdness quotient, the sum of awkward public encounters and famous off-kilter anecdotes, first among them the tale of Romney having strapped his dog to the roof of his car.
SNIP
...The crucial thing to understand here is that Romneys Latter Day Saint affiliation isnt just a potential liability among evangelical voters in Republican primaries. Its a potential general election liability as well. In a recent Gallup poll, 18 percent of Republicans described themselves as unwilling to vote for a Mormon candidate but that number actually climbed to 19 percent among Independents, and 27 percent among Democrats.
Who are these non-conservative Mormon skeptics?... theologically conservative/politically liberal Christians (mainly African American and Hispanic) who regard Mormonism as a dangerous heresy...secular liberals...who dislike L.D.S...positions...people who dont have a particular theological or political ax to grind, who know Mormonism primarily through pop culture (from Big Love and Sister Wives to South Park and The Book of Mormon) and the occasional encounter with bicycling missionaries, and who have a vague sense of the L.D.S. church as little bit cultish, a little bit outside-the-mainstream, and a little bit, well, weird...
(Excerpt) Read more at douthat.blogs.nytimes.com ...
DAng!
I miss ALL the good stuff!!
Dang!
Who you been hangin' wid?
"One kills the body and spirit....the other kills the spirit and the mind. Both are equally evil and bad for our country.
So if it's the lesser of two evils as choices I will vote for neither. Third party will be my choice. And if the country falls it falls....rather than a long drawn out death."
NOT an 'exact' quote:
"to foment hatred towards other people, or in caww's case, billions of people. "
Declare victory and leave the battlefield...
All Christians who believe the Bible to be the Word of God are in agreement with the definition of Evil, and it isn’t your liberal definition either.
So one Freeper calling a Mormon Freeper “evil” and “bad for the country” is not making it personal?!
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CAWW did not call a mormon freeper or any individual Mormon ‘bad for the country’.
“The question of evil....... it is more complex than they some think it is. Why?.... Because one must question the questioner.
If theres such a thing as evil, you assume theres such a thing as good.... If you assume theres such a thing as good, you assume theres such a thing as a moral law on the basis of which ..”to differentiate between good and evil”.
If you assume theres such a thing as a moral law, you must posit a moral law giver,... but thats whom they are trying to disprove and not prove....... Because if theres not a moral law giver, theres no moral law.... If theres no moral law, theres no good...... If theres no good, theres no evil..... What is their question?
Now you may question the last jump:
..... why do you actually need a moral law giver if you have a moral law?...... The answer is because the questioner and the issue he or she questions always involve the essential value of a person....... That is, you can never talk of morality in abstraction....... Persons are implicit to the question and the object of the question.
In a nutshell, positing a moral law without a moral law giver would be equivalent to raising the question of evil without a questioner..... So you cannot have a moral law unless the moral law itself is intrinsically woven into personhood,.... which means it demands an intrinsically worthy person if the moral law itself is valued...... And that person can only be God.
Apologetist: Ravi Zacharias
I thought that as well...but ok with that...the dialogue on the thread was very insightful and interesting.
BTW I intended pinging you with the others to Ravi’s statement on evil but couldn’t remember how to spell your Freep-name! Tom would be good or Carol....LOL!
It’s all good I caught it...
Good..and thanks.
(somewhere in the Bible; I think...)
I think that the latest revelations by the god in the mirror trump the Bible, do they not? I'm sure that the Bible says nothing about lesbian priestesses or pederast pastors...
I'm sure that belief in God is considered an optional extra and a distasteful one at that. And this 'evil' thing is just a hateful legacy. Why can't we all just get along?
In secret societies the member doesn’t know the entire story until he gets into the top echelon. The same is true of Mormonism. And Mitt Romney is an elite Mormon. The Mormon people are misled by their church as a means of control. It tells them if they obey the church they will become as gods when they die. That is Satanic.
As the Muslims still do, in early days Mormons practiced polygamy in order to have as many children as possible, because, as his church tells them, when each Mormon man dies he will receives his own planet. The more children he had here, the more power they will wield there.
The Muslims mean to take over the world just as the Mormons do. Satan is evil. God is good. Satan is doing his level best to gain complete control today, but, in the end. God will prevail! Hallelujah!
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