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Joseph Smith as a Sexual Predator
Mormon Coffee (Mormonism Research Ministry) ^ | Aug. 4, 2011 | Aaron Shafovaloff with clip from Sandra Tanner

Posted on 08/08/2011 7:20:57 AM PDT by Colofornian

The downloadable file for this video is available here. I encourage you to repost it elsewhere on YouTube, Facebook, etc.

Referenced article here

See also:

WivesOfJosephSmith.org

Amorous Advances by the Mormon Prophet

Joseph Smith and Polygamy


TOPICS: History; Moral Issues; Other Christian; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: inman; josephsmith; lds; mormon; mormonism; onetrickpony; polygamy; polygyny; sexualpredator
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Over 5:00 clip of Sandra Tanner describing how Joseph Smith was an obvious sexual predator.

She particularly focuses on how Joseph Smith seduced 16 yo Lucy Walker to become his plural "wife."

Lucy Walker's mother had died and left 10 children, Lucy Walker being one of them. (One of the 10 children also died). So what did Joseph Smith do? He promptly sent this father of 9 on a mission to the East Coast, and split up the 9 children...conveniently arranging for 16 yo Lucy Walker to come to his house.

Smith waited til Lucy Walker's brother accompanied Emma Smith on a trip to St. Louis, and approached her:

Joseph now approached young Lucy Walker, who would become his twenty-second plural wife. Todd Compton relates: Lucy was another young wife of Smith—he proposed to her when she was fifteen or sixteen. In her story we find the familiar pattern of the teenage girl living in the Mormon leader's house, whom Joseph then approaches and marries.5858 Compton, In Sacred Loneliness, p. 458.

The Walker family had converted to Mormonism several years before moving to Nauvoo. In the summer of 1841 the mother, Lydia, contracted malaria due to the swampy conditions in Nauvoo and finally died on January 18, 1842. Lucy recalled, "When at length we were forced to believe she would not speak to us again we were in the depths of despair. Ten motherless children!"5959 Ibid., p. 461. Joseph soon came up with a solution. The father was sent on a mission to the east, the younger children were sent to other families and at least two of the older siblings, Lorin and Lucy, were taken in by the Smith's. Shortly after this division of the family one of the younger children died.

In the midst of all this sorrow and loneliness, Joseph approached sixteen-year-old Lucy Walker in late 1842 about plural marriage. Todd Compton outlines Lucy's resistance: When Smith sensed resistance, as has been seen, he generally continued teaching—asking the prospective wife to pray about the principle, . . . So it happened here. "He said, 'If you will pray sincerely for light and understanding in relation thereto, you Shall receive a testimony of the correctness of this principle.' " Lucy was horrified by polygamy and by his proposal and did not quickly gain the promised testimony. She prayed, she wrote, but not with faith. She was nearly suicidal: "tempted and tortured beyond endureance until life was not desirable. Oh that the grave would kindly receive me that I might find rest on the bosom of my dear mother." Lucy now felt intensely the absence of her parents: "Why—Why Should I be chosen from among thy daughters, Father, I am only a child in years and experience. No mother to council; no father near to tell me what to do, in this trying hour. Oh let this bitter cup pass. And thus I prayed in the agony of my soul."6060 Compton, In Sacred Loneliness, p. 464. Then in the spring of 1843, while Lucy's brother and Emma were in St. Louis, Joseph pressed the issue again.61 61 Newell and Avery, Mormon Enigma, p. 132; Smith, Nauvoo Polygamy, p. 193. 62 Compton, In Sacred Loneliness, p. 465.

Lucy took the matter to God in prayer and finally felt she had received divine approval. Todd Compton relates: On May 1 [1843] Lucy, who had turned seventeen the day before, married Smith at his home, with William Clayton officiating and Eliza Partridge standing witness.62

Source: Sacred Marriage or Secret Affair? Joseph Smith and the Beginning of Mormon Polygamy

1 posted on 08/08/2011 7:21:04 AM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Colofornian

Ah yes, Good Ol’ Joe, the “Jolly Prophet.”

Bucks, booze, and broads. The life of a reprobate dressed up in holy clothing.


2 posted on 08/08/2011 7:24:43 AM PDT by Scanian
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To: Colofornian
....Joseph Smith seduced 16 yo Lucy Walker to become his plural "wife." Lucy Walker's mother had died and left 10 children, Lucy Walker being one of them. (One of the 10 children also died). So what did Joseph Smith do? He promptly sent this father of 9 on a mission to the East Coast, and split up the 9 children...conveniently arranging for 16 yo Lucy Walker to come to his house. Smith waited til Lucy Walker's brother accompanied Emma Smith on a trip to St. Louis, and approached her...

Ping for later

3 posted on 08/08/2011 7:25:47 AM PDT by Alex Murphy (Posting news feeds, making eyes bleed: he's hated on seven continents)
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To: Colofornian
Yes yes,

Since Romney is a major candidate, suddenly, mysteriously, coincidentally, these sort of stories dominate... lol

Seriously? Can't you guys be a little more subtle about it?

4 posted on 08/08/2011 7:26:08 AM PDT by Red6
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To: Red6
You think it might be because Warren Jeffs has been in the news?

Joseph Smith = Warren Jeffs

Warren Jeffs = Joseph Smith

5 posted on 08/08/2011 7:27:58 AM PDT by fulltlt
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To: Colofornian

Mormon sweatshop of holy underwear.

6 posted on 08/08/2011 7:29:36 AM PDT by laotzu
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To: Red6; Colofornian; aimhigh; AmericanArchConservative; aMorePerfectUnion; BearRepublic81; ...
Since Romney is a major candidate, suddenly, mysteriously, coincidentally, these sort of stories dominate... lol Seriously? Can't you guys be a little more subtle about it?

You have a problem about the truth being exposed for what reason, exactly?

You know what? I'll bet there'd never be a *good* time in your eyes for this to be brought to everyone's attention.

How about instead of attacking the messenger, you deal with the substance of the post. Nobody made this about Romney but you.

7 posted on 08/08/2011 7:34:29 AM PDT by metmom (Be the kind of woman that when you wake in the morning, the devil says, "Oh crap, she's UP !!")
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To: Scanian
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8 posted on 08/08/2011 7:36:41 AM PDT by SkyDancer (You know, they invented wheelbarrows to teach government employees how to walk on their hind legs.)
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To: Colofornian

There is a special place in hell for shepherds who use their position to abuse the Lord’s flock. Who knows how many tens of thousand of souls have been deceived and lost by following this false religion.


9 posted on 08/08/2011 7:37:59 AM PDT by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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To: Red6
Yes yes,

Since Romney is a major candidate, suddenly, mysteriously, coincidentally, these sort of stories dominate... lol

Seriously? Can't you guys be a little more subtle about it?


If I were you I would check this out for myself. Joseph was a child molester among other things, don't get mad at the truth!
10 posted on 08/08/2011 7:38:05 AM PDT by ForAmerica (Conservative Christian Black Man!)
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To: metmom

Since the have no defense of their so-called religion they have to point back at those who question it by resorting to saying it’s anti-Mormon attacks.


11 posted on 08/08/2011 7:39:35 AM PDT by SkyDancer (You know, they invented wheelbarrows to teach government employees how to walk on their hind legs.)
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To: All
See also, from the same source, this discussion of: The Transfiguration of Brigham Young...

...re how Lds "apostles" like Orson Hyde lied about being @ the meeting where it was LATER claimed that Brigham alone was selected to take over for Joseph Smith...and how diaries don't reflect the claim that Brigham became changed/transfigured on that August day in 1844.

12 posted on 08/08/2011 7:43:00 AM PDT by Colofornian (Tenses of polygamy: "As fLDS now are, LDS once were. As fLDS now are, LDS may become.")
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To: Red6

Perhaps it has more to do with the recent news about the pedophile-prophet, Warren Jeffs of the fLDS sect who personifies the very likeness, teachings, and purposes of the degenerate ‘Profit,’ Joseph Smith Jr.

Romney worships the disgusting whore-monger. Glad you made the connection.


13 posted on 08/08/2011 7:45:34 AM PDT by colorcountry (Comforting lies are not your friends. Painful truths are not your enemies.)
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To: fulltlt; Red6
Joseph Smith = Warren Jeffs

Warren Jeffs = Joseph Smith

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14 posted on 08/08/2011 7:46:30 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (My God can't be bribed by money or good works or bound by manmade "covenants". Romney's can.)
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To: Red6; metmom
Since Romney is a major candidate, suddenly, mysteriously, coincidentally, these sort of stories dominate... lol Seriously? Can't you guys be a little more subtle about it?

Well, since the Flying Inmans have been posting articles on Mormonism going back to '07, not sure what you mean by "suddenly."

And, guess what? We didn't stop when Romney dropped out of the running in early '08.

But typical mind-reading games some posters play who try to superimpose their own motives into others' minds.

You know, the mods around are fairly tolerant on borderline mind-reading, but just so you know...it's one of the guidelines posters are NOT supposed to engage in.

15 posted on 08/08/2011 7:46:46 AM PDT by Colofornian (Tenses of polygamy: "As fLDS now are, LDS once were. As fLDS now are, LDS may become.")
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To: colorcountry
Warren Jeffs of the fLDS sect

All his Ex's live in Texas.

16 posted on 08/08/2011 7:49:30 AM PDT by Utah Binger (Southern Utah where Freepers will meet again next summer. Especially Elsie!)
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To: Scanian

***The life of a reprobate dressed up in holy clothing.***

Sadly; innocent, trusting people of faith find it difficult to accept that there are evil people who worship not God, but themselves. History is full of such con-artists.

The ultimate perversion of Judeo-Christian religion.


17 posted on 08/08/2011 7:50:32 AM PDT by sodpoodle (Despair; man's surrender. Laughter; God's redemption.)
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To: Utah Binger

I doubt if all of them do. I’ll bet there are plenty down at Shortcreek. ;)


18 posted on 08/08/2011 7:51:29 AM PDT by colorcountry (Comforting lies are not your friends. Painful truths are not your enemies.)
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To: colorcountry

The Shortcrickkers will all be reclaimed by the new profit when little Warren goes away for one hundred years. Can’t let those little girls go to waste.


19 posted on 08/08/2011 7:59:09 AM PDT by Utah Binger (Southern Utah where Freepers will meet again next summer. Especially Elsie!)
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To: ForAmerica
There are sheeple on the right as well.

The best propaganda is subtle (which this really isn't, except that the US public is extremely dumbed down and nondiscriminatory with the media), packaged in a way where people don't realize what is going on, nonetheless it changes perceptions, thereby influencing behaviors. If people are aware of the intent of the information operation, they inherently put up filters or become more critical (Would you read anything in Newsweek and take it as the gospel or would you be highly critical because of their obvious agenda?). The best propoganda isn't all or nothing (overbearing), direct and it's source is through a proxy so that it's subtle to the target audience and achives a desired affect.

I bet, and I haven't done this nor do I have the time, that if you were to look at the the stories in the FR about LDS in 2009 and 2010 you might find a few stories, but now suddenly you see a slew of stories (a constant stream, multiple daily that I can tell) since the election game is on and Romney is a candidate. Of course these stories will be negative (In some aspect where the opponent feels they have a perceived position that will get traction among the ignorant masses- for example, that was WMD in Iraq for the Michael Moore's out there). The superficial and ignorant logic that the sheep are to follow:

LDS = Bad
You're supposed to connect the dot that Romney = LDS

This is in poor taste and has nothing to do with facts or the truth, most likely.

20 posted on 08/08/2011 8:06:44 AM PDT by Red6
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