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To: marshmallow

I don’t doubt that this man is earnest and is telling the truth about his experience as he recalls it. I am surprised at how poorly read he is Biblically, though.

My understanding of the Catholic Purgatory would have it be very similar to the Jewish Sheol. This man’s description of his experience does sound remarkably like being “gathered unto his people” in paradise, which was a level of Sheol. He even uses the word “paradise.”

But. this man’s account, of seeing wandering “souls” outside the hospital window after apparently returning from this paradise, while still clinically dead, does not in any way equate to any concept of either Purgatory or Sheol, none that I’ve ever read about at least.

Earthbound spirits are demonic, from a purely Biblical standpoint. To be absent the body is to be in the presence of the Lord, spiritually. The soul is in the blood, according to Leviticus. Soul and spirit are not synonymous, and neither are wandering around on Earth after death.

Seek out Biblical passages in the original language(s) to find out for yourselves.


76 posted on 07/26/2011 4:26:17 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: RegulatorCountry
To be absent the body is to be in the presence of the Lord, spiritually.

Uh; that isn 't EXACTLY what the scripture says:

New International Version (©1984)
We are confident, I say, and would prefer to be away from the body and at home with the Lord.

New Living Translation (©2007)
Yes, we are fully confident, and we would rather be away from these earthly bodies, for then we will be at home with the Lord.

English Standard Version (©2001)
Yes, we are of good courage, and we would rather be away from the body and at home with the Lord.

New American Standard Bible (©1995)
we are of good courage, I say, and prefer rather to be absent from the body and to be at home with the Lord.

International Standard Version (©2008)
We are confident, then, and would prefer to be away from this body and to live with the Lord.

GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995)
We are confident and prefer to live away from this body and to live with the Lord.

King James Bible
We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord.

 

 

The bible merely records the PREFERENCE of men, NOT what will actually be the case. 

AND is significant as well, for we are going to be absent the body  for a spell until we get in the presence of the Lord.

 

 

 And the dead in Christ will rise first.

Then we who are alive, who are left, will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet  the Lord in the air,

 and so we will always be with the Lord.

 1 Thess 4:15-17


Seek out Biblical passages in the original language(s) to find out for yourselves.

77 posted on 07/26/2011 4:38:01 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: RegulatorCountry
you are somewhat correct, though we define the final purification/sanctification/purgatory as


113 posted on 07/27/2011 7:21:38 AM PDT by Cronos ( W Szczebrzeszynie chrzaszcz brzmi w trzcinie I Szczebrzeszyn z tego slynie.)
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