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Judge Slams Jesuits for "Sham" Efforts to Control Pedophile Priest Donald McGuire
San Francisco Weekly ^ | June 23, 2011 | Peter Jamison

Posted on 06/23/2011 8:32:24 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg

An Illinois judge sharply criticized the Jesuit order in a ruling issued yesterday for not taking adequate steps to rein in defrocked priest and twice-convicted child molester Donald McGuire, asserting that McGuire was preying on teenage boys "right under the noses" of his superiors and that rules established to protect minors from him were "a sham."

The ruling allows punitive damages to be levied against the Jesuits if they lose a lawsuit over McGuire's four-decade career as a predator priest that is now pending in Cook County Circuit Court. The lawsuit names as a defendant the Chicago Province of the Jesuits, where McGuire was technically based. McGuire -- an eminent Jesuit who served as spiritual adviser to Mother Teresa -- taught at the University of San Francisco in the 1970s and 1980s, and ministered to Bay Area families extensively throughout the 1990s...

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To: suzyjaruki
"The truth is that the Jesuits are the most higly regulated liberal, disobedient, and homosexual-infested order of men in the roman tradition".

Fixed it for you.

21 posted on 06/24/2011 5:36:08 AM PDT by Campion ("Fallacies do not cease to be fallacies when they become fashions." -- GKC)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

So it seems.....


22 posted on 06/24/2011 6:13:37 AM PDT by metmom (Be the kind of woman that when you wake in the morning, the devil says, "Oh crap, she's UP !!")
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To: Dr. Scarpetta

“John Doe 129”

129 ?!?!?!!!


23 posted on 06/24/2011 6:14:41 AM PDT by metmom (Be the kind of woman that when you wake in the morning, the devil says, "Oh crap, she's UP !!")
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To: suzyjaruki
Would you mind telling me why I am seeing so many posts today with OPC in them when the subject of the thread has nothing to do with the OPC, of which I am a member?

It's a distraction technique. The *See, everybody else is doing it, too, so we're not so bad after all* mentality.

Confessing sin means an ability to acknowledge it and take responsibility for it something, it seems, that many Catholics are incapable of doing as opposed to denying it, which they have lots of practice with (with a few exceptions).

24 posted on 06/24/2011 6:21:27 AM PDT by metmom (Be the kind of woman that when you wake in the morning, the devil says, "Oh crap, she's UP !!")
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To: suzyjaruki

Probably largely a statistical fluke. But there are some very belligerent members of the OPC or PCA around here who take the attitude that sinfulness could never happen within their church.

One thing I’ve seen a bit of lately are stories about doctrinal dissension within the OPC, which raises an interesting point: The PCUSA, UCC, and most Western Prebyterian bodies have gone so bad doctrinally that they aren’t recognizable as Christian anymore. Seeing this, the OPC and PCA split. Then their members act around here as if Calvinism is somehow some safeguard against heresy, ignoring the PCUSA, UCC and other reformed churches which make up 90% of the reformed movement.

The question is: what did splitting accomplish? Have they won purity at the price of 90% of their co-congregants? Or have they merely withdrawn the most zealous Christians from denominations which needed their influence, only to see the very same issues arise within their newer, much smaller congregations a generation later?

This isn’t mere schadenfreude; even Catholics wrestle whether to flee a bad parish, or stay and fight. My personal take is that as long as the entity meets certain minimum standards, stay and fight if you can take it, spiritually. Among Catholics, that would be a valid eucharist.


25 posted on 06/24/2011 6:23:07 AM PDT by dangus
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To: suzyjaruki

Another question you might ask is why is Dr. Eck fixated on attacking other churches.

I’ve started a series on how sexual predators are a common, infiltrating enemy of Catholics, Baptists and Bible Churches. But apparently Dr. Eck has no interest beyond 20-year-old cases.


26 posted on 06/24/2011 6:25:19 AM PDT by dangus
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To: metmom; Cronos; MarkBsnr
Confessing sin means an ability to acknowledge it and take responsibility for it something, it seems, that many Catholics are incapable of doing as opposed to denying it, which they have lots of practice with (with a few exceptions).

There are a lot of posters who want the entire Catholic Church to take full responsibility individually for all the sins of any of them. I have come to the conclusion that this is an article of belief for all protestant churches (cults, sects, store-front preachers, whatever). Not only that, they want each of us individual Catholics to take responsibility back into the sixties, seventies, and through today.

They apparently want us to think of sacerdotal robes as "dresses" and to be ashamed of the beauty of our cathedrals. They want us to accept their perverted view of our faith, to throw out our Holy Traditions in favor of their "every man is a pope" view, to give up the holiness of the Eucharist for grape juice and crackers.

Since they did it, they want the rest of the Church to do it, in spite of the fact that they have revealed themselves to have none of the fruits of the spirit -- only hatred, vicious spite, judgementalism, lukewarm so-called "Christianity" (really Bibleolatry). They all interpret Scripture differently, for themselves, and they think that the Holy Spirit is guiding each of their heretical ideas, insisting that Catholics must agree with them.

Although Scripture says, "All have sinned and fall short of the glory of God" the only sin they acknowledge is Catholic sin. The only falling short is done by the Catholic Church. The "all" apparently excludes them, and their filthy sins are hidden by their anonymity and refusal to identify their particular cults, lest they be shamed the way they try to shame others.

27 posted on 06/24/2011 6:37:16 AM PDT by Judith Anne ( Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now, and at the hour of our death.)
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To: Judith Anne; metmom
Correct, Judith -- this is mainly lead by the cult-of-one types.

And very rightly spoken that

They want us to accept their perverted view of our faith, to throw out our Holy Traditions in favor of their "every man is a pope" view, to give up the holiness of the Eucharist for grape juice and crackers.

Since they did it, they want the rest of the Church to do it, in spite of the fact that they have revealed themselves to have none of the fruits of the spirit -- only hatred, vicious spite, judgementalism, lukewarm so-called "Christianity" (really Bibleolatry). They all interpret Scripture differently, for themselves, and they think that the Holy Spirit is guiding each of their heretical ideas, insisting that Catholics must agree with them.

Although Scripture says, "All have sinned and fall short of the glory of God" the only sin they acknowledge is Catholic sin. The only falling short is done by the Catholic Church. The "all" apparently excludes them, and their filthy sins are hidden by their anonymity and refusal to identify their particular cults, lest they be shamed the way they try to shame others.

28 posted on 06/24/2011 6:39:20 AM PDT by Cronos ( W Szczebrzeszynie chrzaszcz brzmi w trzcinie I Szczebrzeszyn z tego slynie.)
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To: dangus
Thank you for your thoughtful reply.

Over the years, it has been my experience that the OPC has doctrinal dissension because they are paying so much attention to it. Sometimes to the detriment of shepherding I'm afraid. So cerebral.

Unfortunately, most people are leaving churches for reasons other than doctrine. How wonderful it would be if members (churches in general) were passionate about doctrine and practice!

29 posted on 06/24/2011 7:13:43 AM PDT by suzyjaruki (What is coming next?)
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To: caww

Don’t know much about John Hardon. But Joseph Fessio is one of the whistle-blowers.


30 posted on 06/24/2011 7:38:11 AM PDT by dangus
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To: metmom
The *See, everybody else is doing it, too, so we're not so bad after all* mentality.

Not at all. I believe instead it is a reference to your hypocricy.

31 posted on 06/24/2011 7:52:32 AM PDT by theanonymouslurker
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To: metmom
The *See, everybody else is doing it, too, so we're not so bad after all* mentality.

As opposed to the "all evil comes from Rome, everything bad is the fault of the Catholics, Catholics are the only real sinners, unlike us Protestants, who are completely without fault" mentality?

32 posted on 06/24/2011 8:01:20 AM PDT by Campion ("Fallacies do not cease to be fallacies when they become fashions." -- GKC)
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To: metmom

Rev. Timothy Kesicki, head of the Chicago Province, reiterated regret that the Jesuits did not do enough to stop McGuire.

33 posted on 06/24/2011 9:09:49 AM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta
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“More important, we failed to listen to those who came forward and to meet their courage in dealing with Donald McGuire as we should have,” Rev. Timothy Kesicki said.

He added that steps have been implemented to address clergy misconduct.

http://www.wgnradio.com/news/local/breaking/chi-jesuits-open-to-punitive-damages-in-civil-abuse-case-20110622,0,7058344.story


34 posted on 06/24/2011 9:12:32 AM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: suzyjaruki; Dr. Eckleburg
Doesn't say much for the other orders does it?

On the contrary. It speaks volumes.

36 posted on 06/24/2011 6:40:52 PM PDT by HarleyD
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