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Posted on 06/16/2011 5:41:56 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg
Crude? What was crude about it?
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Discuss? What's to discuss? Catholics are evil, wrong, and guilty; Protestants are pure, holy, perfect, and always right.
End of discussion.
If you want to have a discussion, try the weather.
Do not make sexual innuendos on Religion Forum threads.
If they want to remove a priest, with just an allegation, they should do it quietly, working on the most recent allegation, then start checking in other parishes in which he's served. He should not be publicly accused without serious evidence.
Once an allegation is made public, there is no where the priest can go to get his reputation back when the allegation proves false, or there was nothing serious about what might have happened. In many Dioceses, Bishops have turned over their Pastoral responsibility to Commissions who treat priests as guilty before any real evidence is even produced. This is the flip side of the Bishops turning blind eyes to actual abuse in the past. Both are wrong. The Bishop should never abrogate his responsibility to his priests, and should treat each situation personally, with judgement, and discretion, until such time as clear evidence of abuse is produced.
not trying to break the rules, can you point me to where the TOS are so i can avoid future violations? thank you.
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thank you.
Bump to the chief.
That's true of anyone who is accused of a crime of this nature.
Perhaps people, priests especially, should spend more time making sure their actions are above reproach.
My soul magnifies the Lord,
And my spirit rejoices in God my Savior.
For He has regarded the low estate of His handmaiden,
For behold, henceforth all generations shall call me blessed.
For He who is mighty has done great things for me, and holy is His name. And His mercy is on those who fear Him from generation to generation.
He has shown strength with His arm:
He has scattered the proud in the imagination of their hearts.
He has put down the mighty from their thrones,
and exalted those of low degree.
He has filled the hungry with good things;
and the rich He has sent empty away.
He has helped His servant Israel, in remembrance of His mercy;
As He spoke to our fathers, to Abraham and to His posterity forever.
Glory be to the Father and to the Son and to the Holy Spirit.
As it was in the beginning, is now and ever shall be, world without end. Amen
Magníficat ánima mea Dóminum,
et exsultávit spíritus meus
in Deo salvatóre meo,
quia respéxit humilitátem
ancíllæ suæ.
Ecce enim ex hoc beátam
me dicent omnes generatiónes,
quia fecit mihi magna,
qui potens est,
et sanctum nomen eius,
et misericórdia eius in progénies
et progénies timéntibus eum.
Fecit poténtiam in bráchio suo,
dispérsit supérbos mente cordis sui;
depósuit poténtes de sede
et exaltávit húmiles.
Esuriéntes implévit bonis
et dívites dimísit inánes.
Suscépit Ísrael púerum suum,
recordátus misericórdiæ,
sicut locútus est ad patres nostros,
Ábraham et sémini eius in sæcula.
Glória Patri et Fílio
et Spirítui Sancto.
Sicut erat in princípio,
et nunc et semper,
et in sæcula sæculórum.
Amen.
She became the Mother of God, in which work so many and such great good things are bestowed on her as pass man’s understanding. For on this there follows all honor, all blessedness, and her unique place in the whole of mankind, among which she has no equal, namely, that she had a child by the Father in heaven, and such a Child . . . Hence men have crowded all her glory into a single word, calling her the Mother of God . . . None can say of her nor announce to her greater things, even though he had as many tongues as the earth possesses flowers and blades of grass: the sky, stars; and the sea, grains of sand. It needs to be pondered in the heart what it means to be the Mother of God.
(Commentary on the Magnificat, 1521; in Luther’s Works, Pelikan et al, vol. 21, 326)
(That's the Catholic Church, Dr. E.)
Our Christian faith is in Jesus Christ alone.
"My grace is sufficient for thee." -- 2 Corinthians 12:9
Very sad that Rome doesn't believe that fact.
Vapid PR, Salvation. We’ve seen countless news stories that deny your assertions.
She became the Mother of God, in which work so many and such great good things are bestowed on her as pass man’s understanding. For on this there follows all honor, all blessedness, and her unique place in the whole of mankind, among which she has no equal, namely, that she had a child by the Father in heaven, and such a Child . . . Hence men have crowded all her glory into a single word, calling her the Mother of God . . . None can say of her nor announce to her greater things, even though he had as many tongues as the earth possesses flowers and blades of grass: the sky, stars; and the sea, grains of sand. It needs to be pondered in the heart what it means to be the Mother of God.
(Commentary on the Magnificat, 1521; in Luther’s Works, Pelikan et al, vol. 21, 326)
News stories have said lots of things about priests in the last few years, many of which inferred rampant abuse of children. Those stories made people assume that most priests were pedophiles and that all the Bishops were covering for men who raped children.
The TRUTH is that, even looking over the last 50 years in this country, fewer than 2% of priests were involved in any abuse, and most of that was of post-pubescent boys, so it wasn't pedophilia, it was homosexuality.
Most priests are good men, who work hard to bring Jesus to their parishoners, and care deeply for them. Those men were horribly maligned by the media in this country, and because too many Catholics have become lax in their faith, they were willing to believe the media, because they have the notion that if they read it in the paper, or hear it on the news, it must be true.
Anyone can be accused of anything, at any time, no matter how good they are.
I would not look to any modernist for Scriptural understanding, but the Catholic understanding was fully determined through the Holy Spirit as criteria for establishing the NT canon in the forth century. The Early Church bishops were certainly not modernist and they fought many heresies of their own time that made use of apocryphal Scripture. In response, the bishops removed any gospel or epistle not fully compliant with Catholic doctrine.
Anyone who accepts the NT canon must necessarily accept the criteria used to establish that canon. Any private interpretation of Scripture that conflicts with the interpretation ensconced in Sacred Tradition, is out of line with the criteria of the NT canon.
Bishops of today, whether they are misguided or not, have no authority to re-interpret Scripture in opposition to Sacred Tradition. Nobody has that authority.
And yet the OPC your cult is silent on all the pederasts it has? Well, it’s easier for a cult of 10,000 adults and pederasts to keep things hush-hush...
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