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| May 18, 2011
| John Hollenhorst
Posted on 06/15/2011 9:09:38 AM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Grig
I can’t stop you from attributing whatever motives you want to what I do or reading into my words whatever you feel like. My point in mentioning the blessings of tithing however are in response you the portrayal of tithing as some kind of rip-off.There was no reading into anything. As I said, I have an incomplete picture of your motives & don't pretend to know all of them there. All I could go on was your emphasis. And rather than mentioning the Biblical foundation of giving -- blessed to be a blessing...you twice mentioned that your financial blessings given are to be blessed.
That's out of order in the emphasis of things. (I can't help what you convey).
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posted on
06/17/2011 7:06:18 AM PDT
by
Colofornian
(I already have a God as my leader. Why do I need ANOTHER one as POTUS?)
To: greyfoxx39; Grig
So, is it your belief that God keeps score? That God is influenced by monetary payments?Very good Q, GF. I have found that Mormons generally focus more on the outer checklist stuff...tithing, temple rituals, giving a testimony -- all the external stuff drilled into them by the temple recommend questions.
They somehow keep thinking they can get their god to change his mind about them via performance...
They somehow seem to forget that God is all-knowing...and that he knows what's going on on the inside of a person, too. That's essentially what Jesus noted: He complimented many of the externals of the Pharisees ("unless your righteousness exceeds that of the Pharisees"); inwardly, he referenced them as whitewashed tombstones.
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posted on
06/17/2011 7:11:16 AM PDT
by
Colofornian
(I already have a God as my leader. Why do I need ANOTHER one as POTUS?)
To: Elsie; Grig
Yet nobody is kicked out of the church for not having a temple recommend, that is voluntary too, and once a person gets their endowments they are not excommunicated or have their temple blessings revoked for just stopping paying tithing. [Grig]
May as well; since they get 'kicked out' of the highest level of MORMON heaven. [Elsie]
Indeed.
Doncha love it, Els? Here, one of the most dire things that could happen in their mind to a Mormon -- to be cut off from their family & Heavenly Father forever -- and he's able to put such a positive spin on it!
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posted on
06/17/2011 7:41:38 AM PDT
by
Colofornian
(I already have a God as my leader. Why do I need ANOTHER one as POTUS?)
To: Elsie
BTW the real Calvinist I know are better people then you will every be!
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posted on
06/17/2011 12:13:58 PM PDT
by
restornu
(I really do need to give up my summer cottage in Babylon...Love One Another... God Bless America!)
To: restornu
BTW the real Calvinist I know are better people then you will every be!Poor Resty; forced into making JUDGEMENTS about me; while letting the HERESY that is MORMONism get a pass.
Speaking of CALVINists; didja EVER find out what was UNTRUE about PRESBYTERIANism of Joseph Smith's day?
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posted on
06/17/2011 1:03:08 PM PDT
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
To: Elsie
My Calvinist friends we agree to disagree without being disagreeable, you antis from what I witness are incapable of doing that!
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posted on
06/17/2011 3:10:35 PM PDT
by
restornu
(I really do need to give up my summer cottage in Babylon...Love One Another... God Bless America!)
To: restornu
LOL ... pots and kettles and a kettle of fishy assertion. We do so value your opinion, Resty. ‘Don’t go breakin’ our hearts ...’
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posted on
06/17/2011 8:17:06 PM PDT
by
MHGinTN
(Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
To: restornu
My Calvinist friends we agree to disagree without being disagreeable....Resty; does your BISHOP know you have Calvinist FRIENDS???
TRQ #7
Do you support, affiliate with, or agree with any group or individual whose teachings or practices are contrary to or oppose those accepted by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints?
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posted on
06/17/2011 9:43:04 PM PDT
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
To: restornu
...you antis from what I witness are incapable of doing that!What do you expect?
We start out nice; merely posting what your beloved chosen Organization has taught and practiced, and we get called HATEFUL Bigots!
So worry about them other 3 fingers pointing BACK at yourself when you go off on a rant and ACCUSE us of something.
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posted on
06/17/2011 9:45:44 PM PDT
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
To: Elsie
Resty; does your BISHOP know you have Calvinist FRIENDS???
****
What an unChristian thing to say but what else would I expect from an anti...
Even my Bishop has Calvinist friends from all kinds of faith...
Only folks that are difficult are those X Mormons who are radical & Bigots...not all x Mormons are disagreeable.
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posted on
06/17/2011 10:38:02 PM PDT
by
restornu
(I really do need to give up my summer cottage in Babylon...Love One Another... God Bless America!)
To: restornu
What an unChristian thing to say but what else would I expect from an anti...Is this a YES or a NO??
It's YOUR 'church' that wants to KNOW these things; mine is the one who doesn't care WHO you are FRIENDS with!
Stop confusing the simple act of observation with negativity.
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posted on
06/18/2011 5:04:53 AM PDT
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
To: restornu
...not all x Mormons are disagreeable. An Agreeable Apostate!
Who else but RESTY could come up with this!
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posted on
06/18/2011 5:06:35 AM PDT
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
To: restornu
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posted on
06/18/2011 5:07:49 AM PDT
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
To: restornu
Only folks that are difficult are those X Mormons who are radical & Bigots...Since I am NOT a BIGOT; I guess I am one of the sweet ones.
ANYone who CALLS me a BIGOT; well...
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posted on
06/18/2011 5:09:33 AM PDT
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
To: Elsie
135
posted on
06/18/2011 5:18:35 AM PDT
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
To: Elsie
the Lord Church could careless because all are His that have ears to hear their masters voice.
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posted on
06/18/2011 11:11:04 AM PDT
by
restornu
(I really do need to give up my summer cottage in Babylon...Love One Another... God Bless America!)
To: restornu
the Lord Church could careless because all are His that have ears to hear their masters voice.Agreed. Joseph Smith DID listen to his master's voice!
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posted on
06/18/2011 12:53:32 PM PDT
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
To: restornu
"Joseph; I advise you not to go to that jail."
"Darn gnats!!"
"Joseph; I'm telling you to not to go to that jail."
"Flies are BAD today!!"
"Joseph; It ain't gonna be pretty if you ignore me and go to that jail!"
"Crummy mosquitos are EVERYWHERE!!!"
"Joseph! Do NOT go to that jail!"
"And those bedbugs really savaged me last night, too!"
"JOSEPH!! Wake up boy! Do Not Go To That JAIL!!!"
"All right Sheriff - here I am, so give me a nice room while my Lawyer, my Advocate, my Comforter presents the LAW to the Judge and I am VINDICATED!!!"
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posted on
06/18/2011 12:55:40 PM PDT
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
To: restornu
“BTW the real Calvinist I know are better people then you will every be!”
Ad hominem argument. Got anything about the topic? Anything that includes facts? Evidence? Logic?
Nope.
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posted on
06/19/2011 10:46:15 AM PDT
by
aMorePerfectUnion
(A Nation of Sheep Breeds a Government of Wolves!)
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