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Oh!!!!.... They finally woke up???????

What could have caused such a "drastic" change? /SARCASM!

The RCC should have been doing this at least 10 years ago...had they not been so busy hiding the perverts... "you know..."

I do hope this "new" concern is for "real" and not just for show!

(sorry for being a "tad" bitter...)

44 posted on 06/15/2011 2:44:44 PM PDT by ElPatriota (The SILENCE of the Catholic Church in protecting our culture from perversion is ** DEAFENING **)
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To: ElPatriota; NYer; MarkBsnr; Titanites

your tagline is pretty outdated looking at this headline..


45 posted on 06/15/2011 3:56:34 PM PDT by Cronos ( W Szczebrzeszynie chrząszcz brzmi w trzcinie I Szczebrzeszyn z tego słynie.)
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To: ElPatriota
I'm sure you must feel bitter by the way in which the bishops earlier ignored the 3-4% of bad priests, however take heart, change is happening and change is and can be driven by us.

Even at the darkest hour, the majority of the clergy were uncorrupted

But now, the Church needs people like you, deeply believing, religious, indignant folks

Let me just say this -- curses on the 3% of criminals that were priests who abused children. I am glad they are thrown out and glad that there are stricter norms today (see the suspension of Corapi on mere suspicion and accusation sans proof) and am saddened that this was not done earlier (either due to liberal ideas that pscyhology could help or other reasons).

however, I do not see this affecting my beliefs or the dogma or doctrines of The Church.

I note also that this is not something embedded in the clergy, despite what our media wants us to believe

Even in the worst dioceses only 2-3% of priests were accused (in the lib hell-holes of Philly and Chicago). Let's assume all were guilty, that still means only 3% of priest.

Do not condemn the rest of the priests for the actions of the few.

This is not endemic -- note the many good priests and bishops, especially those being appointed now. They need our help. Note also that we are Catholics, we are not a personality driven MegaChurch that rises or falls based on a pastor -- our High Priest is Christ Himself.

If we have a sin filled priest (and hey, they are human after all), that matters not. If they are criminals boot them in prison, that doesn't affect our Church. If they can't preach, that matters not.

Because we look beyond this human vessel and focus on Christ in the Eucharist

During our Holy Prayer to God, what do we have?

  1. We enter in holding aloft the Word of God, singing praises to God
  2. We hear the Word of God, we meditate on this
  3. we sing praises to God, recite glorious psalms, dwell our thoughts on God
  4. and then, my friend, we experience a marvelous, miraculous experience, the Eucharist! Why is it all of this? Because we witness God's sacrifice, His giving of Himself to us, we look on in awe at Jesus Christ, our Lord, God and Savior in the Eucharist, fulfilling His promise to us and giving us the graces in communion
  5. We recite the Nicene Creed acknowledging our Triune God
  6. We pray to the Father as Jesus taught us to pray
  7. We experience the blessings of the Holy Spirit, the grace, the freely given grace granted through the Spirit.
  8. We pray in silence, contemplating this supernatural experience
  9. We greet one another, brothers and sisters, all sharing in this ONE experience along with millions of our brothers and sisters across the world, stretching back to the Apostles and forward to His return
  10. We leave the Church with joy, Christ in our hearts and the Holy Spirit indwelling in us with the grace of the Father.

oh, my friend in Christ, we are blessed to have experienced this -- and where does the minister figure in all of this? He is just a tool, a means. God uses splendid tools or weak ones, but they are just tools

What is at the centre of our Churches? Not like in others, the pulpit, glorifying the preacher, but in Our Church the center-piece is the altar with the Eucharist, the Bible and the Cross, remembering us of Our Risen Lord, His sacrifice and His Word

Arise, let us take back our Church Catholic.

46 posted on 06/15/2011 4:06:39 PM PDT by Cronos ( W Szczebrzeszynie chrząszcz brzmi w trzcinie I Szczebrzeszyn z tego słynie.)
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