Maybe doomsday is near

WND ^ | May 28, 2011 | Joseph Farrah

[Quix]

Thx.

Will check it out.

[OKSooner]

Yo Quix,

Valid points all I suppose, but it's, uh, intercourse.

Not that I know a whole lot about it, mind you. Just tryin' to help. :)

[Quix]

And even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing, 4in whose case the god of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelieving so that they might not see the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God. (2 Corinthians 4:3,4)
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places. (Ephesians 6:12)

They don’t know God, they don’t recognize His sovereignty, they don’t fear Him. None of the responses on this thread are surprising.

59 posted on Saturday, May 28, 2011 3:59:37 PM by GiovannaNicoletta

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INDEED.

[Quix]

Your preferred . . .

focus,
construction on such realities,
comfort zone,
way to determine, guess, infer, interpret God’s will . . . truth . . .

[Matchett-PI]

"Your method also ignores CHRIST’S STATEMENT: “My sheep hear my voice.”

Unlike me, some other Christian FReepers seem to a a problem with your arrogant style.

[Alamo-Girl]

Thank you so much for sharing your views, dear brother in Christ, and thank you for your encouragements!

I do think you are being too hard on the mods. As long as the material has a religious context and is posted on the Religion Forum - and is not a forbidden subject such as 911 theory or a forbidden source like Alex Jones - then it probably would not even be of concern to the mods.

And if you present information without vetting (or that cannot be vetted) it follows that you should not be troubled if others find it unbelievable, i.e. we can't have our cake and eat it too.

[Quix]

Doh.

Yeah. Poor speller . . . especially when I’m not paying close attention.

[Quix]

Plenty true, I’m sure.

Thanks much for your kind insights and exhortations.

[Quix]

Awwwwwwww . . .

my “arrogant style.”

I’m sure some would agree.

We shall see how much God does.

[Quix]

Did you get into the Clinton exposure of the Atomic Energy Commission’s human experiments . . . e.g. injecting plutonium into retarded children etc?

Evidently the new highly researched and documented book on area 51 asserts such things.

[Matchett-PI]

"We shall see how much God does"

. Yes we will.

BTW, in addition to arrogance, did the "Holy Spirit" ever tell you that God doesn't like lying either?

[Quix]

Let me get this straight . . .

it sounds like you are asserting

that I’m an arrogant liar?

What, pray tell, have I lied about?

[Zionist Conspirator]

The Lew Rockwell/Ron Paul brigade is not going to like this.

[GiovannaNicoletta]

LOL!!!! Don't worry about it, Quix:

"The bottom line to all of this false prophecy is what I had been concerned with: that people would think that what Camping was saying was genuine biblical prophecy; and it wasn’t! Camping is playing his ‘math games’ again. I wish that more christians would study serious bible prophecy books written by scholars, of which Camping is not a scholar."

"The method of interpretation that Camping is using is called the Ammillennialist school of interpretation; this method uses the Allegorical method, which views everything in the Bible as an allegory. In his book, "Things to Come", subtitled "A Study in Biblical Eschatology" which is and was a text book on biblical prophecy used at Dallas Theological Seminary, J. Dwight Pentecost goes into detail in the very first chapter by quoting other scholars as follows:"

“Ramm defines the allegorical method thus: 'Allegorism is the method of interpreting a literary text that regards the literal sense as the vehicle for a secondary, more spiritual and more profound sense.’”

"In this method the historical import is either denied or ignored and the emphasis is placed entirely on a secondary sense so that the original words or events have little or no significance. Fritsch summarizes it thus:"

"According to this method the literal and historical sense of scripture is completely ignored, and every word and event is made an allegory of some kind either to escape theological difficulties or to maintain certain peculiar religious views . . . “

"Pentecost thus concludes: “It would seem that the purpose of the allegorical method is not to interpret scripture, but to pervert the true meaning of scripture, albeit under the guise of seeking a deeper or more spiritual meaning.” Pentecost then lists the dangers to this method of interpretation, again quoting other learned scholars:"

“Angus-Green express the same danger when they write:"

“‘There is . . . unlimited scope for fancy, if once the principle be admitted, and the only basis of the exposition is found in the mind of the expositor. The scheme can yield no “interpretation,” properly so called, although possibly some valuable truths may be illustrated. The above quotation suggests, also, a second danger in the allegorical method: the basic authority in interpretation ceases to be the Scriptures, but the mind of the interpreter. The interpretation may then be twisted by the interpreter's doctrinal positions, the authority of the church to which the interpreter adheres, his social or educational background, or a host of other factors.”’ (Bolding and Underlining, CM)

"I cannot stress enough the harm that Harold Camping is doing, and is continuing to do; to people who, incredibly, still sincerely believe in him. Many families' finances have been destroyed; some families have been broken apart; some individuals have left their jobs, some have left their churches, and their livelihoods; only to find disillusionment and alienation."

Post Harold Camping - The Harm that Harold Camping Is Doing

Quix, you have nothing to apologize for. Absolutely nothing.

[marbren]

What, pray tell, have I lied about?

Quix, Just to help you understand what Matchett-PI is talking about. Matchett-PI says Covenant and Grace theology is the Pretereist preferred expression for replacement theology. He says replacement theology is a derogatory expression. I lie when I, marbren not you Quix, says he adores it.

Matchett-PI adores preterist grace and covenant theology that says the church replaced Israel.

Quix, You and I know that replacement theology is a satanic lie. I am beginning to understand it is the main reason antisemitism exists.

[Quix]

THANKS FOR YOUR KIND WORDS.

Certainly I agree with your well grounded points.

I haven’t written Camping’s Board of Directors yet. I still plan to.

If they don’t reign him in severely or retire him, they do him, Family Radio and Christianity a grave disservice, imho.

[Matchett-PI]

"it sounds like you are asserting that I’m an arrogant liar? What, pray tell, have I lied about?

No, that was your friend. I assume that since you didn't rebuke him in puplic, you probably did it privately.

Didn't you.

Some would think you do sound a lot like him, though.

[Quix]

Hmmmmmmmm

Thanks for the clarifications.

I certainly don’t track all that well at times.

And, I know that some sorts hereon have fierce hostility toward me as a Christian and as a person.

[Quix]

Hmmmmmmmm

Thanks for the clarifications.

I certainly don’t track all that well at times.

And, I know that some sorts hereon have fierce hostility toward me as a Christian and as a person.

[Zionist Conspirator]

Actually the first sensible thing you've said. And nothing you've said here proves that God had anything to do with natural evils being visited specifically on the United States of America. The God you believe in is vicious and hate-filled, and murders innocent people, many of whom don't agree with the President about Israel or anything else. I wouldn't live in his universe for a single nanosecond -- and thankfully, I don't -- and neither do you.

Whether or not the tornadoes had anything to do with policy toward Israel (which I put a great deal of stock in because the pro-Israel parts of the country are the ones being hit with these storms and because the Arabs and the Euros are getting off scott free), but your blind-faith dogmatic assertion that the G-d of Israel doesn't exist and that this is not His universe, much less the evil and hypocritical remark about the Holy One Blessed is He are just too much. Plus they are shot through and through with the hatred you hypocritically claim to condemn.

The very idea that there exists some sort of objective external moral/ethical standard by which the Creator of the Universe may be judged is ridiculous. Apart from the Decrees of the Creator there are no objective moral/ethical standards at all . . . only subjective hang-ups. And those hang-ups do not become one whit less subjective because they are held by a majority of the human race, or even by the entirety of the human race.

If you want to "prove" that we don't live in the universe of the G-d of Israel, then do this: find anywhere in human history of a second claim to national revelation as the basis of a religion. Why has there been only one? Don't random events happen more than once? Why is every other religion in human history either mythological or else historically founded by some human being? Why has only one religion ever claimed to have been founded directly by G-d Himself (the invisible G-d, not a "prophet" or even a demigxd) and historically at a particular moment in history?

C'mon, you can surely do that, can't you? 'Cause if you can't . . . even you know you're living in the Jewish G-d's universe whether you want to admit it or not!

I bet you consider yourself a "philo-semite" because of your "enlightenment" beliefs! Phooey!