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To: FredZarguna; Quix; wideawake
Actually the first sensible thing you've said. And nothing you've said here proves that God had anything to do with natural evils being visited specifically on the United States of America. The God you believe in is vicious and hate-filled, and murders innocent people, many of whom don't agree with the President about Israel or anything else. I wouldn't live in his universe for a single nanosecond -- and thankfully, I don't -- and neither do you.

Whether or not the tornadoes had anything to do with policy toward Israel (which I put a great deal of stock in because the pro-Israel parts of the country are the ones being hit with these storms and because the Arabs and the Euros are getting off scott free), but your blind-faith dogmatic assertion that the G-d of Israel doesn't exist and that this is not His universe, much less the evil and hypocritical remark about the Holy One Blessed is He are just too much. Plus they are shot through and through with the hatred you hypocritically claim to condemn.

The very idea that there exists some sort of objective external moral/ethical standard by which the Creator of the Universe may be judged is ridiculous. Apart from the Decrees of the Creator there are no objective moral/ethical standards at all . . . only subjective hang-ups. And those hang-ups do not become one whit less subjective because they are held by a majority of the human race, or even by the entirety of the human race.

If you want to "prove" that we don't live in the universe of the G-d of Israel, then do this: find anywhere in human history of a second claim to national revelation as the basis of a religion. Why has there been only one? Don't random events happen more than once? Why is every other religion in human history either mythological or else historically founded by some human being? Why has only one religion ever claimed to have been founded directly by G-d Himself (the invisible G-d, not a "prophet" or even a demigxd) and historically at a particular moment in history?

C'mon, you can surely do that, can't you? 'Cause if you can't . . . even you know you're living in the Jewish G-d's universe whether you want to admit it or not!

I bet you consider yourself a "philo-semite" because of your "enlightenment" beliefs! Phooey!

140 posted on 05/30/2011 12:07:38 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Ki-hagoy vehamamlakhah 'asher lo'-ya`avdukh yove'du; vehagoyim charov yecheravu.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

INDEED.

Well put.


143 posted on 05/30/2011 12:19:06 PM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: FredZarguna; Quix; wideawake
Correction: the parenthetical statement:

(which I put a great deal of stock in because the pro-Israel parts of the country are the ones being hit with these storms and because the Arabs and the Euros are getting off scott free)

. . . shoud of course read

(which I don't put a great deal of stock in because the pro-Israel parts of the country are the ones being hit with these storms and because the Arabs and the Euros are getting off scott free)

I apologize for the error.

145 posted on 05/30/2011 12:52:58 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Ki-hagoy vehamamlakhah 'asher lo'-ya`avdukh yove'du; vehagoyim charov yecheravu.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
EVERY primitive tribe believed they were God's chosen people. There is nothing remotely unique about the Israelite claim.

Why is every other religion in human history either mythological or else historically founded by some human being?

177 posted on 06/05/2011 7:06:08 PM PDT by FredZarguna ("It looks just like a Telefunken U47.....with leather.")
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