Posted on 05/25/2011 2:57:13 PM PDT by Eleutheria5
Chana Shapiro Stillman is appalled at what she discovered while doing research for the JCPA. Some UK church authorities, significantly the Methodists, are substituting a political agenda for Christianity. They have disavowed the Bible because it's too "Jewish " and associate with anti-Israel and pro-Palestinian groups under the guise of religion.
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That’s the main reason I am no longer Methodist.
And this has all happened before. Everyone put on your zoot suits and start listening to swing music again. The thirties are back.
They can’t be actual Christians and hold that position, and it doesn’t matter that they still call themselves Methodist or whatever. It’s good that they have come out so true Christians can make sure not to associate with them and can stand against them.
I left a long time ago when they were supporting Abortion and when I asked about the Bible was told it was not relevant and that I was an Experimenter for believing the Bible.
Now I am Presbyterian PCA (not USA) for over 21 years, which has none of these liberal problems. We don't have the gay minister problem as does PC USA or the Episcopal and our plank is that the Bible is Inerrant, Authoritative, and Plenary (Complete).
If you get tired of the Political Correctness and blather in the liberal churches come sit with us a while. Men are men hear and women love their roles. Be refreshed and join us.
I am a Methodist and my minister pastors 3 churches. We shy away from politics other than to pray for the world leaders to make wise decisions. My pastor preaches from the old as well as the new testament as one proves the other.
As for abortion, we buy baby clothes and diapers and baby care needs and donate cash for a community clinic that counsels women to see their pregnancies to term and they neither provide abortions or condone them. We help them to provide for the babies to ease the burden of the mothers. We also provide Spanish language bibles for the mothers to be and many expectant mothers are led to Christ when they visit the clinic.
We will all be judged one day and God will seperate the wheat from the chaff.
I grew up Methodist and remained Methodist until I was 32 years old, when I joined the Orthodox Church. My father is Methodist and I know many fine Methodist people. One of the best Easters I’ve had was in a Methodist church I visited while traveling in Georgia. I don’t think this person represents all Methodists, and I apologize if you took it that way. I do think that this person represents an illness that afflicts a lot of the mainline denominations, and some others, and that is the tendancy of some people to replace traditional Christian doctrines with ideas of their own making. They either don’t believe them anymore, or the old ideas don’t fit in with modern ideas, or they wish to use the church as a vehicle to advance secular ideologies that they do believe in. That could be social justice, feminism, or it could be the health-and-wealth gospel. Or, they say they choose a Christianity of following Jesus as opposed to a Christianity about Jesus. But that is a false dichotomy. Orthodoxy and orthopraxy go together. John Wesley was proof of that.
I was wrong to say that these people are not necessarily Christians. No doubt many of them are, and no doubt many of them are better people than I am. However, I also believe that they are dreadfully mistaken about what they represent as Christianity, and I am not bound to accept it as such.
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