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Last Judgement #28 [Invitation to the New Church]
e-mail ^ | 1758 | Emmanuel Swedenborg

Posted on 05/22/2011 10:02:42 AM PDT by DaveMSmith

Last Judgment 28

V. THE LAST JUDGMENT IS TO BE WHERE ALL ARE TOGETHER, AND SO IN THE SPIRITUAL WORLD, NOT ON EARTH

The general belief about the Last Judgment is that the Lord accompanied by angels will appear in glory in the clouds of heaven, and He will then raise up from their graves all who have ever lived from the beginning of creation, clothe their souls with a body, and, when they have been summoned to meet, judge them, sending those who have lived good lives to everlasting life or heaven, and those who lived wicked lives to everlasting death or hell.

The churches have taken this belief from the literal sense of the Word, and there was no possibility of removing it so long as it remained unknown that everything mentioned in the Word has a spiritual sense; and this sense is the real Word, the literal sense serving as its basis or foundation. Without this kind of literal sense the Word could not have been Divine, and have served both heaven and the world as a means of instruction on how to live and what to believe, and as a means of conjunction. So if anyone knows the spiritual things corresponding to natural things in the Word, he can know that the Lord's coming in the clouds of heaven does not mean His appearance there, but His appearance in the Word. The Lord is the Word, because He is Divine truth. The clouds of heaven in which He is to come are the literal sense of the Word, and the glory is its spiritual sense. The angels are heaven, from which He appears, and they are also the Lord as regards Divine truths.# This makes plain the meaning of these words, namely, that when the church comes to an end the Lord will open up the spiritual sense of the Word, and thus reveal Divine truth such as it is in itself. This will be a sign that the Last Judgment is at hand.

That there is a spiritual sense within each thing and expression in the Word, and what it is may be seen in the Arcana Coelestia. This book expounds in full detail the contents of Genesis and Exodus in accordance with their spiritual sense. Some selected passages dealing with the Word and its spiritual sense may be found in the small work About the White Horse described in Revelation.

# The Lord is the Word, because He is Divine truth in heaven (AC 2533, 2813, 2859, 2894, 3397, 3712). The Lord is the Word because the Word comes from Him and is about Him (AC 2859). It is about nothing but the Lord, especially in its inmost sense about the glorification of His Humanity, so that the Lord Himself is contained in it (AC 1873, 9357). The Lord's coming is His presence in the Word and the revelation of this (AC 3900, 4060). A cloud in the Word means the letter of the Word, or its literal meaning (AC 4060, 4391, 5922, 6343, 6752, 8106, 8781, 9430, 10551, 10574). Glory in the Word means Divine truth such as it is in heaven and in the spiritual sense (AC 4809, 5922, 8267, 8427, 9429, 10574). Angels in the Word mean Divine truths coming from the Lord, since angels are the means by which they are received, and they do not utter them of themselves but from the Lord (AC 1925, 2821, 3039, 4085, 4295, 4402, 6280, 8192, 8301). The trumpets and horns then blown by angels mean Divine truths in heaven and revealed from heaven (AC 8815, 8823, 8915).


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To: Natural Law; metmom
I think it is just a tool to annoy and impede Catholic content and theology.

How cute - A terrible two's tactic to get it's own way. Maybe a kiddie forum might suit you better until the control issues are unlearned.
261 posted on 05/29/2011 11:28:36 AM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: Natural Law
I think it is just a tool to annoy and impede Catholic content and theology.

Catholic Theology doesn't need our help. It will implode all on it's own.

262 posted on 05/29/2011 11:29:12 AM PDT by Gamecock (It's not eat drink and be merry because tommow we die, but rather because yesterday we were dead.)
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To: Elsie; 1000 silverlings; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; blue-duncan; boatbums; caww; count-your-change; ...
Ezekial 33:1313When I shall say to the righteous, that he shall surely live; if he trust to his own righteousness, and commit iniquity, all his righteousnesses shall not be remembered; but for his iniquity that he hath committed, he shall die for it.

I guess that means that all those people who belong to religions which teach that you have to be good enough to get God's grace are all washed up after all.

263 posted on 05/29/2011 11:31:49 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: presently no screen name
How cute - A terrible two's tactic to get it's own way. Maybe a kiddie forum might suit you better until the control issues are unlearned.

Ever the optimist, aren't you?

264 posted on 05/29/2011 11:37:33 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Natural Law; Elsie
AMAZING what one can learn if one opens his eyes.

REALLY? Let's see if that's true..

Luke 8:20 Someone told him, "Your mother and brothers are standing outside, wanting to see you."

Luke 8:21 He replied, "My mother and brothers are those who hear God's Word and obey It."

Luke 11:27 As Jesus was saying these things, a woman in the crowd called out, "Blessed is the mother who gave you birth and nursed you."

Luke 11:28 He replied, "Blessed rather are those who hear the Word of God and obey It."

What did you learn NL?


265 posted on 05/29/2011 11:43:39 AM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: metmom
Ezekial 33:1313When I shall say to the righteous, that he shall surely live; if he trust to his own righteousness, and commit iniquity, all his righteousnesses shall not be remembered; but for his iniquity that he hath committed, he shall die for it....... I guess that means that all those people who belong to religions which teach that you have to be good enough to get God's grace are all washed up after all.

RIGHT ON, metmom!!! And they even post Scripture that points to it and they can't see it! LOL! They are clueless to what they read/post - and SO VOID of understanding Scripture and prove it daily here. They self destruct while they are totally unaware they are doing it. The RCC/catechism sure make fools out of it's followers.
266 posted on 05/29/2011 12:01:40 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: presently no screen name

When God looks at us, our iniquity overrides our righteousness, but that is to be expected, as our righteousness is as filthy rags in God’s sight anyway.

That’s why we need the righteousness of Christ, which is only granted through God’s mercy and forgiveness. Being forgiven is the ONLY way to have our sin not counted against us, and Christ’s righteousness imputed to us is the only way to have the righteousness God’s justice demands.

We are TOTALLY incapable of doing any work that can cancel the debt against us under those circumstances.


267 posted on 05/29/2011 12:06:49 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: boatbums
Imagine that! Saving that special privileged dispensation of EX-CATHEDRA infallibility for two dogmas and they are both UNSCRIPTURAL!!!

But look at the people who fall for it...Are they under a spell or something???

268 posted on 05/29/2011 12:12:38 PM PDT by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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To: Natural Law
That is the beauty of it and why it is also the language of law and science. Because Latin is dead it no longer changes and evolves. Unlike English, Greek, and even now Hebrew, its meanings are fixed permanently in time. Whoo hoo.

FAIL...Regardless of the fixed meaning of the Latin, it only does you some good if Latin is your normal language...

If your English or German language keeps changing, then the definition of the Latin words change...

Back when I was in school, taking a couple of years of Latin, the instructor told us reading and writing Latin was ok, even though the sentence structure was ridiculous, but no one speaks Latin because it's about an impossible Language to speak...

While people in the Catholic religion write, read and sing Latin, I'll bet you'd be hard pressed to find anyone who actually converses in Latin...

269 posted on 05/29/2011 12:19:02 PM PDT by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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To: boatbums; 1000 silverlings; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; blue-duncan; caww; count-your-change; ...
Imagine that! Saving that special privileged dispensation of EX-CATHEDRA infallibility for two dogmas and they are both UNSCRIPTURAL!!!

And exactly what would be the need for an EX-CATHEDRA infallibility declaration for something that IS Scriptural? If it were already Scriptural, it wouldn't need to be authenticated in any other way. It would stand on its own.

270 posted on 05/29/2011 12:20:59 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom
We are TOTALLY incapable of doing any work that can cancel the debt against us under those circumstances.

EXACTLY!

One would need to squash their pride to admit 'totally incapable' and that's repulsive to 'the pious/the religious crowd' because the church says...., the church says.....pope pious says....etc.

God's Word is THE FINAL AUTHORITY. Believe it or weep!
271 posted on 05/29/2011 12:25:56 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: Iscool
"FAIL...Regardless of the fixed meaning of the Latin, it only does you some good if Latin is your normal language..."

Is that your learned opinion? You better get that out to all of the medical, science and law schools in the world. What in the heck were all of those idiots thinking?

272 posted on 05/29/2011 12:31:38 PM PDT by Natural Law
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To: Gamecock; presently no screen name; metmom
"Catholic Theology doesn't need our help"

No, but you apparently need some.

In nomine sanctae Dymphna exaudi nos Deus salutaris noster, ut Sanctam Dymphna cultor afflictos et motus animi aegritudine. Adjuva nos agi exémplo et consolari auxílium misericórdiæ ejus. Amen.

In the name of St. Dymphna, hear us, O God, Our Saviour, as we honor St. Dymphna, patron of those afflicted with mental and emotional illness. Help us to be inspired by her example and comforted by her merciful help. Amen.

273 posted on 05/29/2011 12:37:49 PM PDT by Natural Law
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To: Kolokotronis
Western Latin and Anglo Saxon based languages generally do not.

Have any ideas why this might be so??

(It's ALL Greek to me!)

274 posted on 05/29/2011 2:15:46 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: daniel1212

Thank you for the excellent post on Swedenborg. I had not heard of him, but there are a million of his kind roaming history and our present day.


275 posted on 05/29/2011 2:17:28 PM PDT by WXRGina
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To: FourtySeven
But we sure do give up a lot of knowledge if we throw out the unwritten Word of God.

Along with a lot of trash.

Golly!

Who makes the decision?

WHY do they?

Do they REALLY have the AUTHORITY to do so?

Why isn't 'tradition' give the AUTHORITY of Scripture?


An awful lot of people on this thread give a lot of weight to what James wrote...

James 1:27

Religion that God our Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world.

276 posted on 05/29/2011 2:20:13 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Kolokotronis

I'll SEE your Manti and raise you 3 Nephites!

277 posted on 05/29/2011 2:21:59 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Natural Law
He became a saint by the words of Jesus. Who are you to question that?

;^)

Today you will be with me in paradise.

I see now; perfectly clear.

278 posted on 05/29/2011 2:24:45 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Natural Law
Catholics believe that when Jesus founded His Church he endowed it with the ability and the mission to compile canon, preserve, defend, and teach the Revealed Word. God, in former times, clothed his Apostles with power far more exalted.

And we are castigating others for no sources?

279 posted on 05/29/2011 2:26:05 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: metmom
If the hearer can infallibly interpret, then he can infallibly interpret Scripture and doesn’t need someone to infallibly interpret for him.



NIV 1 Corinthians 4:6
Now, brothers, I have applied these things to myself and Apollos for your benefit, so that you may learn from us the meaning of the saying, "Do not go beyond what is written."
 Then you will not take pride in one man over against another.
 

NIV 2 Corinthians 1:13-14
13. For we do not write you anything you cannot read or understand. And I hope that,
14. as you have understood us in part, you will come to understand fully that you can boast of us just as we will boast of you in the day of the Lord Jesus.

280 posted on 05/29/2011 2:34:23 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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