Posted on 05/21/2011 4:46:26 AM PDT by marbren
Camping is a victim of replacement theology. IMHO the lie of replacement theology is almost as insidious as idolatry. The key to holistic understanding of Bible prophecy is to understand the role of Israel in it. God keeps his promises to Israel. This is a model to the rest of us that he will keep his promises to us as well.
A majority of the church going world has been victimized. I believed the lie for 35 years. During the past 20 I have been seeking the truth and only recently did I stop saying IMHO replacement theology is a lie and replaced it with: Replacement theology is a lie dropping the IMHO. For those that do not know, Replacement theology is the lie that the Church has replaced Israel in God’s plan.
The church was polluted by Replacement theology early on. Origen and Augustine, early Fathers of the church, were the first to muddy up the scriptures in this way when they arrogantly took on the mantle of Israel for themselves. Martin Luther apparently did not study it and this lead to his anti-Semitism and Hitler. In many ways IMHO it is like a reverse of the circumcision party that led to Acts 15.
This replacement theology lie has lead to the church we have today. Everyone is running around not knowing what is happening in these end times we are in. The truth is The Church, the Bride of Christ, has a role and Israel has a role. Think of men and women, children and parents, husbands and wives, angels and people, dogs and cats, sheep and goats, wheat and tares. All these have roles God invented.
So the solution: Open your Bible, drop your preconceived notions and open your mind, ask God to reveal the truth about all this Israel stuff written in the Bible. The Lord Jesus Christ is central in it all. Gods Grace and Mercy is incredible, He does all the work. Faith and hope and love permeate the entire Bible and the greatest of these is love.
Here is some more of my perspective that comes from my understanding of the role of Israel in end times.
One day the USA will be part of the one world government ruled by the antichrist. Israel will be the only separate nation. I see it as a superpower.
Jesus is The Word. You can’t accept Him without accepting Who He is - THE WORD.
And He’s not the man-made teachings you follow. But your’s is just another group following ‘man’ and his made up nonsense meant to deceive. Hopefully, some will learn from this and see the results where any man made teachings lead. I won’t even go into how clueless they are and refused to believe it.
God’s Word is The Final Authority.
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Yes, We the church go up similar to Elijah with no chariots.
Of course the rapture is the figment of vivid imagination gone wild.
The problem you and your ilk face is the use of Sola Scriptura evolving into prideful interpretation resulting in Camping's disgrace. Admit to reality and leave the world of fantasy.
Your type ignores literal meanings in scripture when it is convenient and holds to the literal when it suits your prideful purpose. God is consistent you should follow His example.
Marbren wrote:
“Here is some more of my perspective that comes from my understanding of the role of Israel in end times. One day the USA will be part of the one world government ruled by the antichrist. Israel will be the only separate nation. I see it as a superpower.”
In your post 21 you stated: “I was raised Lutheran.”
So, you abandoned the church of the Reformation for “my perspective”, “my understanding,” and “I see it ...”? May I say, with no intent to belittle or offend, that you abandoned what you never really did understand or, perhaps better, what was never fully and adequately taught you.
Camping is just the tip of the ice berg for your ilk with their ungodly prideful dumbo, mumbo jumbo rapture which only the intellectually challenged would believe
Camping and associated reprobates have turned Evangelicals into a joke who many Christians now wish to distance themselves from least they be called imbeciles. The good aspects of Camping is that many now might now leave the ranks of the sola scriptura crowd and join the Bride of Christ.
Thanks for making Christianity a laughingstock in the world.
Excellent point! One that has been repeated numerous times on the threads concerning Camping. It seems some people cannot resist the opportunity to slam their idea of sola scriptura.
bronx2 wrote:
“... the ranks of the sola scriptura crowd ...”
You really are a one-trick pony.
CCC Campings Cult Church - just another wing of religions and their man made teachings. Instead of Mary - wonder who they idolize - perhaps Camping himself.
It is the fear of not being ready to face Jesus Christ.
Harold Camping did a favor for many people. He gave them a crutch besides the word "dispensation" to deny Scripture and convince themselves that the "Church" to whom the Rapture applies and to which they have a sick, nagging suspicion that they may not belong, will not be going anywhere.
After all, Harold Camping proved that the Biblical doctrine of the Rapture is a lie. Right?
I am still a Lutheran. I am an elder for my Pastor who is Lutheran.
I GREATLY GREATLY AGREE.
I don’t think most people resepct highly enough the Scripture about the first shall be last and the last shall be first.
If we did—there’d be stiff competition for the last places.
Instead we have competition for “LORDING IT OVER” positions.
Nor have we humans tended to believe or respect sufficiently the one about our sufferings now earning glory then. NOT salvation—but glory.
Are you talking about the
70% of self proclaimed RC’s in the Vatican Cult who don’t behave anywhere close to as the Catechism teaches?
Or are you talking about the 7-30% who are smugly self-righteous about their works earned pretend ‘righteousness?’
What unmitigated nonsense.
When folks lean on Holy Spirit for understanding and truth—even about God’s Word . . . there’s a much better result
than when folks lean on the magicsterical power-mongers of the Vatican Cult.
Out walking your pack of STRAW DOGS
. . . AGAIN!
ok. thx.
Ahhhhhhhh
I didn’t realize that the Vatican Cult had removed I Thes 4:17 from their rubberized pseudo-’bible’s.’
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