Posted on 05/06/2011 2:36:31 PM PDT by NYer
Um, no, it's not. In the past 50 years, when the abuse that has been uncovered occurred, the total percentage of priests involved in any abuse was not more than 2%.
The effects of liberal attitudes on the Catholic Church were big, and many times deleterious, but we're seeing movement back to faithfulness, and away from the progressivism that gave rise to much of that abuse.
It seems that most of these stories of reversion follow a similar path.
While I left the Church because it was “too restrictive”, as I grew up, I found that following my own desires had left me cold and I was missing something huge in my life.
I thank God every day for never letting go of me.
In no way could the study be accurate...
In the Protestant religions, the guilty are ostracized while in the Catholic religion the guilty are hidden, moved around to new locations and allowed and apparently encouraged to continue on with their crimes...
The 1.7% may reflect how many Catholic clergy have become exposed to the general public but it's the ones that your religion hides and protects that we are more concerned about...And we have no idea how many of them there are...
Most of you guys voted for a pro abortion, pro homosexual Obama...You could be mistaken in your assessment...
Rather it sounds like they cater to those who have "itching ears". The scriptures are meant to convict the soul-not pacify it. It is to show how far short we have fallen from God's standard and to ask Him for His grace to overcome our sinful nature. Those who show "respect" to Christians without convicting the soul are doing them, and God, a disservice. Please remember the Jews in Jeremiah's time found their greatest comfort through the priests in the Temple of God who told the people just what they wanted to hear. Jeremiah on the other hand wanted nothing to do with it and rightfully warned of God's wrath that was to come-especially hard on those who practice such deceit.
Are you seriously claiming there are no cases of Protestantism moving abusers around and allowing them to carry on with their "ministry"?
Iscool - “In no way could the study be accurate...”
“In the Protestant religions, the guilty are ostracized while in the Catholic religion the guilty are hidden, moved around to new locations and allowed and apparently encouraged to continue on with their crimes...”
“The 1.7% may reflect how many Catholic clergy have become exposed to the general public but it’s the ones that your religion hides and protects that we are more concerned about...And we have no idea how many of them there are...”
“Penn State professor Philip Jenkens reported that between 2 to 3 percent of Protestant clergy are pedophiles. His same study reported that less than 1.7 percent of Catholic priests are pedophiles. There is simply no reason to think that clergy child molesters are solely a Catholic problem. The results of this survey were reported in the book, Ministerial Ethics by Joe Trull and James Carter (2d ed. 2004), and in The Baptist Standard editorial, “Churches must act to prevent clergy sexual abuse,” 4/22/2002. (source: The voice of SNAP Baptist).”
http://stopbaptistpredators.org/alarmingnumbers.html
Your personal opinion is important, of course, but it doesn’t trump the investigative report.
Your other allegations are in error - see the numerous links already provided on the thread.
Collusion(s) - outside links within this source...
http://stopbaptistpredators.org/collusion_individuals.html
10-11 abuse cases for April 2011 alone - source provides outside links -
http://stopbaptistpredators.org/news.html
PS: Obama votes? Introducing another topic will deflect from the current one.
Agree for the most part we differ with the methodology.
Sorry I meant to include you in the previous post to Iscool.
Let's just watch the movie.
THX for your efforts.
Cuing it up. Will try to get to it before sleep.
Who cares, by Hacksaw.
LOL!!! Where on earth did you get the material? ;O)
Indeed, LOL.
Right here on Free Republic! LOL!
Catholic Revert: Richard Evans (Why I’m Catholic)
Who cares.
You wrote:
“In no way could the study be accurate...”
Okiedokie. Your saying it makes it so?
“In the Protestant religions, the guilty are ostracized...”
Sometimes, yes. Sometimes. no. What happens after the abuse is not an indication of the rate of abuse. Also, there have been Protestant sects - some large, some small - who did not ostracize their abusive clergymen.
“...while in the Catholic religion the guilty are hidden, moved around to new locations and allowed and apparently encouraged to continue on with their crimes...”
That has not happened in years, of course. No priest now - who is alleged to have abused anyone, ever - is moved around anywhere by the Church. They are all suspended or dead. All of them.
When someone accuses a priest, that priest is immediately suspended. He is then investigated. This has been the case for almost a decade now. The recent case of Fr. Corapi is a good example. An allegation was made and he was immediately suspended. Most people don’t even believe the allegation, but he was suspended anyway.
“The 1.7% may reflect how many Catholic clergy have become exposed to the general public but it’s the ones that your religion hides and protects that we are more concerned about...And we have no idea how many of them there are...”
We actually have an excellent idea of how many. We know this because all those priests who were accused have now been removed from the active ministry (actually for more than 7 years that has been the case). Most of the abusive priests commited their crimes in the 1960s and 1970s and were out of active ministry decades ago.
There are lies, damned lies, and what the OPC says about Catholics.
It wasn't Catholics who elected Obama, it was Protestants. The 54% statistic thrown around so often is completely misleading because it only accounts for the actual number who voted. Catholic voter turnout was below 50% because so of all Catholics only about 12 million actually voted for Obama. That is a mere 17%. The largest Catholic vote getter was "None of the above" because not enough could hold their noses to vote for McCain.
If you doubt my numbers put on your thinking cap (if you don't have one borrow one from a Catholic) and determine what percentage of the 68 million Catholics in this country are registered to vote and of that percentage what percentage actually turned out to vote. Of that number 54% voted for Obama. Can you arrive at a number greater than 12 million? (I didn't think so). Another approach would be to determine what percentage of the total population of the US is Catholic and apply 54% of that percentage to the total number of votes cast for Obama. Now can you arrive at a number greater than 12 million? (I didn't think so). Now stop spreading the lie that Catholics elected Obama. It only makes you look petty and dishonest.
True.
But it proves that the American wing of the Roman Catholic Church isn't as conservative as FRoman Catholics portray.
False. When only 12 million of the 68 million Catholics vote for the Democrat candidate it proves that only a small minority are as liberal as you imply. I wish the number of Catholics not voting their faith were zero, but attempts to leverage this to prove anything is disingenuous.
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