[Cronos]

In fact,

1. What does Jesus say saves us?
   • Matt. 24:13

     13But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

   • Matt 25:31-46 34Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:
     35For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in:
     36Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me.
   
   Jesus says that if you endure to the end you get salvation, that if you helped your fellow man you inherit the kingdom of God (you get salvation) --> note these are HIS own words

2. 1 Pet. 3:20-21: " It (Baptism )saves you by the resurrection of Jesus Christ"

3. Note -- also in Acts 16:31 we are told to believe and you will be saved -- so Faith is definitely one of the things needed, yet as you see above, it is not ONLY faith. Remember -- James says "even the demons believe - and shudder" -- it is not faith ALONE that saves

[Colofornian]

Remember -- James says "even the demons believe - and shudder" -- it is not faith ALONE that saves

Utter out-of-context distortion -- to cite this James passage in conjunction with an anti "faith alone" perspective.

Why?

Because you equate "believe" in this context -- what the demons are doing...which is mere cognitive intellectual acknowledgement that God exists...with trusting faith...which in no unmistakeable terms could be said as to what they are doing!!!!

Do you really contend that demons are operating on "faith alone" principle??? Really????

Shame! Shame! How pathetic of an argument is that??

What do you take us for?

ALL: To hear Cronos tell it, apparently he thinks demons are indeed operating on Christian faith...but that their bad deeds undercut such faith...and therefore, they don't go far enough.

Wow!