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To: manc
I wouldn't have done it but did the other so who am I to say? I was a single mom, never had a man move in. All three of my children have done it. Two have divorced and remarried, and one never got married, doesn't seem to want to.

Since so many do it these days, I'm not judging anyone. It's their business. I wish them all well.

I don't mean to make this all about sex because it isn't but is a big issue. Historically in Western culture, it doesn't seem to be have been important that a woman derived any sexual pleasure to the point of fulfillment, just produce children and be a good wife, the worst was chastity belts but never that female circumcision. Sometimes I wondered if little boys were neutered for singing, but I don't know. Obviously some women had to have caught on to it at some point. It was common for men to have both wives and mistresses, and the wives put up with it because it was accepted and divorces were rare and prohibited. And this was Catholic Europe. I emphasize that nothing is always true across the board.

There are hints in Chaucer and some novels that used to be on the banned list that women indeed desired sexual fulfillment as well as the man.

To me, it's all a lottery, and some people are just luckier than others. I don't condone it but neither do I condemn it (on a couple's level), just on principle because that's what the bible says and the church has always taught. Leave it to God and His mercy.

I wish you well too, glad to hear your children are growing up well. You must have learned good parenting skills along the way.

82 posted on 04/30/2011 3:35:39 PM PDT by Aliska
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To: Aliska

thank you for the kind mature post, and I wish you and your family well,


99 posted on 04/30/2011 4:58:10 PM PDT by manc (Shame on all who voted for the repeal of DADT, who supported it or never tried to stop it. Traitors)
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To: Aliska

;it doesn’t seem to be have been important that a woman derived any sexual pleasure”

Wholly false. You need only look at the ‘estasy of St. Theresa’ to see the truth.

The argument is not that the woman denies herself sexual pleasure outside of marriage, but that she deprives herself from the sexual pleasure to be had in marriage.


123 posted on 04/30/2011 6:15:06 PM PDT by BenKenobi
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