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Posted on 04/30/2011 2:38:35 PM PDT by marshmallow
The Archbishop of York has given his backing to Prince William and Kate Middleton’s decision to live together before marriage.
The Archbishop of York backed Prince William and Kate Middleton’s decision to live together before marriage, saying that many modern couples want to “test the milk before they buy the cow”.
Dr John Sentamu argued that the royal couple’s public commitment to live their lives together today would be more important than their past.
But Anglican traditionalists criticised the Archbishop, the second most senior cleric in the Church of England, for failing to reinforce Christian teaching which prohibits sex outside marriage.
The row came as Prince William and Kate Middleton unveiled their choices for the royal wedding service, which include classically British music and hymns, and an updated choice of marriage vows in which the bride omits the word “obey”.
In a television interview, Dr Sentamu was asked whether it was appropriate for the Prince, who is in line to become head of the Church of England as King, to have been living with his bride before marriage.
He said he had conducted wedding services for “many cohabiting couples” during his time as a vicar in south London.
“We are living at a time where some people, as my daughter used to say, they want to test whether the milk is good before they buy the cow,” he said. “For some people that’s where their journeys are.
(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...
agreed, I do not like how he said it but I do agree with him.
My now wife and I lived for two year with each other and now we have 3 kids and been nearly 16 years, all A honor roll students who have never been in trouble.
That not might go with some views but we’re happy we did it and no some do not have sex living wit each other before marriage
A simple No Comment would have sufficed.
Ok I should have posted to someone else
Good job there, you’ve cited a source who’s completely biased (a religious source) and the NY Times who cites a study out of Sweden from 1981...
Can you find anything that post dates the Reagan Admin?
Sweden, Incidentally has one of the highest suicide rates in the industrialized world.
Way to go...
I’m his wife and I want you to know that some couples do not have sex while living together and I hope you can put your way of words better next time.
You wrote:
“it’s another religious link.”
And?
” I can hardly use that when putting forth your view point “
Why? Are you saying that because it is a religious site that means the site’s info is bad? So, if a bishop says the earth is not flat you doubt him because he is religious?
” I need an objective link if you have one please.”
All links are objective. All of them. They’re just links. Sources, however, may not be objective. You apparently can’t tell the difference. Maybe you should psend less time whinning to people about what they post to you as links and simply look for yourself.
“I’m not asking for it now but some time when you have more time”
And in that time you could simply look for yourself. Why don’t you?
The guy is a positive moron.
I can understand that he might not want to speak critically about the royal couple in the media right after they got married, but there are various ways that he could have simply dodged the question, if he didn’t want to make an example of them.
But saying that premarital cohabitation is a good idea is NOT something that the head of the Anglican Church should be doing.
What a moron. It’s not only completely wrong in Christian teaching, statistical analysis has repeatedly shown that on average people who live together before marriage are LESS likely to stay married than people who wait.
But it’s hardly a surprise from this gay-loving, Muslim-loving jerk who was chosen for his job by Tony Blair, who wanted someone who would normalize gay bishops.
I've never heard it put that way. Excellent analogy and one I wouldn't want for my daughter, for sure.
Look When I don’t make a stupid claim I will not waste my time looking , it’;s that easy and if you don’;t like how my wife and I lived with each other then tough, you can preach your views to your kids , do you have any?
If I did make a claim then I would back it up with a link which comes from a good independent source
I’d rather couples who are interested in each other consider the sanctity of their potential union and spend time together and apart preparing for the difficulties they may face and deepening their relationship so that if he snores she won’t shoot him in the head with a shotgun just out of sheer petty annoyance.
But I’m in the minority and frankly I was shocked to see Rowan Williams officiate and use the words “The Father The Son and The Holy Ghost”. I would have thought he’d be referring to allah thru the whole thing. I was surprised there were enough Christians left in England to fill Westminster.
Sweet Heart, the first truth that I have seen in the man woman wars on FR in all the years that I have been a member. Love you!
Let's take a vote on how many people believe that such a couple would be representative of the norm?
that is you and you can pass your views onto your kids but I’;d rather my kids do live before marriage and no they don’;t have to have sex.
Seems some think because people live with each other it is all about sex, speaks volumes, and no I’m not on about you either
then take a vote, go out and take a poll which is better, go on the street and ask folks.
I’;m sure they will all say the same as you, yea right.
You got kids have you?
Now, I guess that you've since repented of it and asked for forgiveness, since you've mentioned that your wife is now a Christian, and that is an extremely good thing, but don't taint the salvation of yourself and your wife by saying that your sins were somehow a good thing or beneficial in your salvation. To do so cheapens the sacrifice that Christ made for us.
I've never heard it put that way. Excellent analogy and one I wouldn't want for my daughter, for sure.
Thank you. It was intended to cut to the heart of the matter: that human beings are far more than their sex organs and my idea of a parent who loves his daughter is one who doesn't want her to be "sampled" by a man.
You wrote:
“Look When I don’t make a stupid claim I will not waste my time looking ,”
No, what you’ll waste OUR time doing is criticizing sources you apparently can’t grapple with by dismissing them because they are posted on religious websites - as if that somehow negates the actual info.
“it’;s that easy and if you don’;t like how my wife and I lived with each other then tough, you can preach your views to your kids , do you have any?”
I never said anything about you and your wife shacking up. Again, you are apparently confusing me with someone else. Please get a clue and pay attention. Also, if I want to post my views on here I can - I’m a registered member in good standing just like everyone else. And whether or not I have children has nothing at all to do with the truth about cohabitation and divorce and is also NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS.
“If I did make a claim then I would back it up with a link which comes from a good independent source”
No such thing. All sources are produced by people and organizations and none of them are truly independent. They all have points of view, beliefs, biases and are capable of error. What you’re doing is dismissing out of hand information given to you. You are apparently doing it because you can’t answer it. Again, look on google and you might get a clue.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2008-07-28-cohabitation-research_N.htm
This article says rates are higher for people who cohabitate before but don’t blame it on living together..
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