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Royal Wedding: Archbishop Backs William and Kate's Decision to Live Together Before Marriage
The Daily Telegraph (UK) ^ | 4/29/11 | Tim Ross, Jonathan Wynne-Jones and Gordon Rayner

Posted on 04/30/2011 2:38:35 PM PDT by marshmallow

The Archbishop of York has given his backing to Prince William and Kate Middleton’s decision to live together before marriage.

The Archbishop of York backed Prince William and Kate Middleton’s decision to live together before marriage, saying that many modern couples want to “test the milk before they buy the cow”.

Dr John Sentamu argued that the royal couple’s public commitment to live their lives together today would be more important than their past.

But Anglican traditionalists criticised the Archbishop, the second most senior cleric in the Church of England, for failing to reinforce Christian teaching which prohibits sex outside marriage.

The row came as Prince William and Kate Middleton unveiled their choices for the royal wedding service, which include classically British music and hymns, and an updated choice of marriage vows in which the bride omits the word “obey”.

In a television interview, Dr Sentamu was asked whether it was appropriate for the Prince, who is in line to become head of the Church of England as King, to have been living with his bride before marriage.

He said he had conducted wedding services for “many cohabiting couples” during his time as a vicar in south London.

“We are living at a time where some people, as my daughter used to say, they want to test whether the milk is good before they buy the cow,” he said. “For some people that’s where their journeys are.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Mainline Protestant; Moral Issues
KEYWORDS: anglican; archbishopofyork; churchofengland; cohabitation; royalwedding; sentamu
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour
Well the one thing I can attest to personally is the fact that women nowadays seem to develop what I can only describe as an extreme cavalier attitude shortly after marriage. And then shortly after that, begin to take more than they give regarding all aspects of a marriage.

Oh, for cryin' out freakin' loud. What a classic misogynistic statement.

:eyeroll:

163 posted on 05/01/2011 8:27:29 AM PDT by Allegra (Hey! Stop looking at my tagline like that.)
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To: vladimir998; manc
Your post will have to be pulled also for having quoted the potty language.

Both of you, do not make this thread "about" each other - that is a form of "making it personal."

Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.

164 posted on 05/01/2011 8:28:00 AM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: Gabz
Statistics can say lots of things. They are just numbers and can be shown to say anything the party spouting them chooses them to say.

Best comment on this thread. There are many reasons a couple lives together and many reasons for a divorce. To draw a conclusion based on one variable, cohabitation or not, is self serving. So is passing judgment on any couple that chooses cohabitation prior to marriage. While passing judgment is human nature, it really is God's job.

165 posted on 05/01/2011 8:32:04 AM PDT by LuvFreeRepublic (Support our military or leave. I will help you pack BO!)
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To: Jeff Chandler

There are ways of discerning the character of an individual that don’t involve the exchange of body fluids.

What kind of parent wants a man to “try out” his daughter’s vagina before committing to love and cherish her?
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Do you think that couples won’t have sex, if they don’t live together?


166 posted on 05/01/2011 8:34:18 AM PDT by kara37
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To: LuvFreeRepublic

exactly, there are many reasons for living with each other and many reasons for a divorce.

For some to pass judgment on others because of their strict views is not right IMHO .

We , my wife and I lived with each other, we’re happy we did and we’re going on 16 years with 3 great kids.

I do have to wonder if those who are preaching their views and passing judgment on a couple they have no clue about have kids and did their kids never have sex and never live with someone before marriage.

I stick with my views that I have no problem if my kids live with someone before marriage and I’d rather know who they’re marrying.
Like the saying goes, you do not know a person until you live with them and no way do I want my kids to marry someone only to find they have the most disgusting lifestyle, disgusting habits and is a slob who likes to eat in bed and never pick their clothes up.

If someone doesn’t want to live with their future spouse so be it , that is up to them both and not for us to run around passing judgment.

Is there some place in the Bible where it states you should not live with each other before marriage and if so could someone give me the verse please.


167 posted on 05/01/2011 9:15:13 AM PDT by manc (Shame on all who voted for the repeal of DADT, who supported it or never tried to stop it. Traitors)
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To: manc

See what I mean? Are you learning yet?


168 posted on 05/01/2011 9:20:49 AM PDT by vladimir998 (Copts, Nazis, Franks and Beans - what a public school education puts in your head.)
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To: manc

You wrote:

“Is there some place in the Bible where it states you should not live with each other before marriage and if so could someone give me the verse please.”

Are you kidding? Do you expect everything to be explicit in scripture? Do you have a verse for THAT?

John 4:18 “The fact is, you have had five husbands, and the man you now have is not your husband. What you have just said is quite true.”

There’s a woman living with a man who is not her husband. Do you think Jesus approves of disapproves?


169 posted on 05/01/2011 9:29:53 AM PDT by vladimir998 (Copts, Nazis, Franks and Beans - what a public school education puts in your head.)
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To: vladimir998

why not go and ask him but one thing is clear it doe snot say you should not live with each other and so why if people do.

It’s not my family and do you have kids?


170 posted on 05/01/2011 9:48:02 AM PDT by manc (Shame on all who voted for the repeal of DADT, who supported it or never tried to stop it. Traitors)
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To: vladimir998

oh yes I am that if I say thing to you I get reported.

Best not say anything else as I don’t want to get someone knickers in a twist.


171 posted on 05/01/2011 9:50:42 AM PDT by manc (Shame on all who voted for the repeal of DADT, who supported it or never tried to stop it. Traitors)
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To: vladimir998

Do you think people should live with each other before marriage and do you have kids?


172 posted on 05/01/2011 9:52:15 AM PDT by manc (Shame on all who voted for the repeal of DADT, who supported it or never tried to stop it. Traitors)
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To: manc

You wrote:

“why not go and ask him but one thing is clear it doe snot say you should not live with each other and so why if people do.”

Did Jesus approve of her actions? It seems obvious that the answer is no. Perhaps that’s why you are avoiding it.

“It’s not my family and do you have kids?”

So you think that Jesus has a sliding code of morality? No, He does not. Perhaps that’s why you’re trying to change the subject yet again.


173 posted on 05/01/2011 9:54:33 AM PDT by vladimir998 (Copts, Nazis, Franks and Beans - what a public school education puts in your head.)
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To: manc

You wrote:

“oh yes I am that if I say thing to you I get reported.”

Nope. “Potty language” is the problem. You used it and your post got pulled - so did mine for just quoting you. That’s how things work.

“Best not say anything else as I don’t want to get someone knickers in a twist.”

Just don’t use the language you shouldn’t use.


174 posted on 05/01/2011 9:56:42 AM PDT by vladimir998 (Copts, Nazis, Franks and Beans - what a public school education puts in your head.)
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To: vladimir998

asking you a question and wondered seeing as you’re Catholic if they live by your rules but it seems you cannot answer that, must have been a tough question.

Do you have kids?

As for Jesus and you thinking you know him and what he would think then does he say love unto others.

BTW You’re Catholic this couple are not and you don’t even know them so do you run around preaching your, O best not say it before you report me ARF


175 posted on 05/01/2011 9:58:35 AM PDT by manc (Shame on all who voted for the repeal of DADT, who supported it or never tried to stop it. Traitors)
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To: manc

You wrote:

“Do you think people should live with each other before marriage and do you have kids?”

What do you think Jesus thinks of fornication, putting yourself in the occasion of sin and cohabitation? Please use ONLY Bible verse to prove your answer.


176 posted on 05/01/2011 9:58:35 AM PDT by vladimir998 (Copts, Nazis, Franks and Beans - what a public school education puts in your head.)
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To: vladimir998

er I don’t know because I don’t know him and if you find m e where he says do not live with each other before marriage then I’ll stick with that answer.

What would he think, ARF like you know


177 posted on 05/01/2011 10:00:11 AM PDT by manc (Shame on all who voted for the repeal of DADT, who supported it or never tried to stop it. Traitors)
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To: vladimir998

ever thought people do not live by your faith?
Ever thought what it is like to have kids?
Ever thought what it is like to be a parent?
Ever though people couldn’t careless about your faith or how you think people should live?
No don’t answer by saying what would Jesus think either


178 posted on 05/01/2011 10:02:03 AM PDT by manc (Shame on all who voted for the repeal of DADT, who supported it or never tried to stop it. Traitors)
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To: vladimir998

I’ve used the word since I came onto this site,even to JR but I don’;t come onto the religion threads much as a few people like to push their faith and think their faith is the supreme one. They like to quote verses which does not even apply to their lives.


179 posted on 05/01/2011 10:04:03 AM PDT by manc (Shame on all who voted for the repeal of DADT, who supported it or never tried to stop it. Traitors)
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