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Can it Be
Catholic Lane ^ | 4/24/11 | Mary Kochan--Catholic Lane

Posted on 04/24/2011 6:34:14 PM PDT by Mary Kochan

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To: Artemis Webb

To understand the Light one has found, they must sometimes testify about the shadows from whence they came....

I’m sure that you don’t mean to sound judgemental...Do you?


21 posted on 04/24/2011 8:08:54 PM PDT by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: Artemis Webb

The fate of one’s immortal soul, and of the souls of one neighbors, is a far more crucial matter than describing the character of a former girl friend.


22 posted on 04/24/2011 8:18:36 PM PDT by Elsiejay
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To: Mary Kochan

Have you considered becoming a Baptist? You avoid paganism; plus, we have pot-luck meals!

***Kicking Hornets nest and Running!***

***Donning Asbestos Drawers***


23 posted on 04/24/2011 8:21:37 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: Mary Kochan

“And Can It Be” is an outstanding hymn that encapsulates the Christian message in song!


24 posted on 04/24/2011 8:22:23 PM PDT by pankot
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To: Grizzled Bear

I did consider it. Thank you for the invite — you wouldn’t be a good Baptist if you didn’t make it. Let us together praise our Savior while our Easter joy is still fresh in our hearts. We can argue another time. God love and keep you.


25 posted on 04/24/2011 8:26:59 PM PDT by Mary Kochan (http://www.catholiclane.com)
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To: Grizzled Bear

“You avoid paganism; ...”

I have a huge respect for my true Baptist friends, they are as sound Biblically as a non Catholic can be. In that light, what do you mean “paganism”?


26 posted on 04/24/2011 8:27:59 PM PDT by narses ("Fallacies do not cease to be fallacies because they become fashions." Chesterton)
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To: pankot

Yes, it is wonderful. I learned it at a Methodist church. I love the Wesleyian hymns.


27 posted on 04/24/2011 8:29:09 PM PDT by Mary Kochan (http://www.catholiclane.com)
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To: Mary Kochan
I don't have a link; but one of the coolest videos I've ever seen is Penn (of Penn and Tellor), an avowed atheist, saying that if you truly believe in God, the most hateful thing you could do is not spread the word.

God bless you and guide you, sweet sister!

28 posted on 04/24/2011 8:29:57 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: Mary Kochan

Thanks for posting this Mary, it was very interesting and I didn’t find that it was “running down” any religion at all. It was very informative. I didn’t know some of the things you listed about the religion of your youth. We had a very small JW group in our small town when I was a kid. Where I live now, we get an unwelcome visit once a year or so from another group of them.

Tell me, is it true that when the person whose home they are approaching, doesn’t want to talk with them, isn’t that some kind of badge of honor or proof to them that they are the chosen ones and not us non-Witnesses? I’ve always wondered that, and I must have heard it somewhere in the past.

Welcome to the fold Mary! God Bless you!


29 posted on 04/24/2011 8:30:34 PM PDT by TheConservativeParty (Palin and Reagan, happy warriors in the fight for freedom,winning the fight with ideas.)
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To: pankot
“And Can It Be” is an outstanding hymn that encapsulates the Christian message in song!

You should see how it's rewritten in Calvinist hymnals.
30 posted on 04/24/2011 8:30:58 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: narses

Compare the Catholic pantheon of saints to any culture’s pantheon of gods.


31 posted on 04/24/2011 8:31:31 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: Mary Kochan
Long my imprisoned spirit lay, Fast bound in sin and nature’s night; Thine eye diffused a quickening ray— I woke, the dungeon flamed with light; My chains fell off, my heart was free, I rose, went forth, and followed Thee.

That verse of the song always gives me goosebumps.
32 posted on 04/24/2011 8:32:25 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: Grizzled Bear

Saints are any and all saved in heaven - how is that either a “pantheon” or “paganism”? Is the the communion of saints not part of the Apostles Creed?


33 posted on 04/24/2011 8:33:52 PM PDT by narses ("Fallacies do not cease to be fallacies because they become fashions." Chesterton)
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To: Grizzled Bear

We Christians in this country can talk about our faith openly in ways that are the envy of many of our persecuted brothers and sisters around the world — so we’d better do it!


34 posted on 04/24/2011 8:35:23 PM PDT by Mary Kochan (http://www.catholiclane.com)
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To: narses
Saints are any and all saved in heaven - how is that either a “pantheon” or “paganism”? Is the the communion of saints not part of the Apostles Creed?

A "Saint" is one who suffers for God.

A "Saint" does not need a Papal Decree to be a "Saint."

35 posted on 04/24/2011 8:40:01 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: Mary Kochan

Happy Easer and Peace be with you! I was raised a Jehovah’s Witness and have been baptised and confirmed in the Catholic Faith as well...just this Holy Saturday. It has been an exhilarationg journey to say the least and I am confident in my dedication to my savior. I, too, was quite confused that Jesus was not worshipped as God even though he laid down his life, sent for just that purpose, and yet JWs deny his gift to us. Here’s a question though....JWs believe that Jesus was crucified on a stake not a cross. Is there any documentation that criminals were condemned to death on a stake? I have read about people being crucified on a cross not a stake. Is it anywhere in written history? I think that Russell and the other founding JWs were fast and loose with the facts.


36 posted on 04/24/2011 8:41:52 PM PDT by jp3 (BABIES, GUNS & JESUS...HOT DAMN!!)
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To: Grizzled Bear

“A “Saint” does not need a Papal Decree to be a “Saint.””

Even the Pope agrees, how then are Saints “pagan”?


37 posted on 04/24/2011 8:43:04 PM PDT by narses ("Fallacies do not cease to be fallacies because they become fashions." Chesterton)
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To: TheConservativeParty

When people are rude to them at the door, they consider that to be “persecution” and yes, they think that is a mark that they have the truth. Actually though, they are often rude and obnoxioius to people and they are often pushy, prompting a negative reaction, which they are very proud of. It is kind of perverse.

A couple of things though:
1. I really think that every Christian should try to be as loving to them as possible — that’s what we are called to.
2. Remember that although they look zealous — they really are not; they are driven. Going door-to-door is reqired of them and they have to report to their local elders how much time they spend doing so each month.
3. If you are a strong Christian and you can detain them by inviting them in, giving them some refreshment and talking to them, you kill two birds with one stone: you show them the love of Christ AND you keep them from visitng someone they might mislead.


38 posted on 04/24/2011 8:43:10 PM PDT by Mary Kochan (http://www.catholiclane.com)
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To: Shadowstrike
"I’m sure that you don’t mean to sound judgemental...Do you?"

Of course I'm judgmental. So are you. So is everybody. If you say you're not judgmental you're either delusional or a liar. I would prefer to believe you're delusional. You're not a liar...Are you?

39 posted on 04/24/2011 8:43:39 PM PDT by Artemis Webb (What, if not a bagel and coffee, confirms the existence of a just and loving God?)
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To: Artemis Webb

First off, we weren’t talking about me, we were talking about you.

Second, you sure seem to be trying to pick a fight, and on Easter Sunday...shame on you.


40 posted on 04/24/2011 8:52:24 PM PDT by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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